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What does it take to move 380 tons?

Posted on 10/26/2004 6:28:23 PM PDT by BobKrumm

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To: BobKrumm

I read a report today, and I will try to find it and post, that said the Pentagon suspected the explosives were moved shortly after the UN inspectors left, but before or at least immediately after the beginning of the actual fighting.


21 posted on 10/26/2004 6:40:22 PM PDT by SolidRedState (Saddam moved, not stolen.)
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To: BobKrumm

By US standards, trucks can overload to 50 tons while flying to Vegas at 80 MPH. But I understand those chemicals were supposed to be in powder form, to be combined with binding resins and oxidizers later. So maybe one 40' semi may be expected to carry 20 tons. Divide 380/20= 19. And that stuff isn't ready to just blow up. You can't just throw a ciggie butt into it. And they don't have trucks like we do to travel decent roads in the desert. So maybe 10 ton/truck over shitty roads with big holes blown in them.
38 crappy Iraq-standard trucks might do it. Or the UN did it themselves.


22 posted on 10/26/2004 6:41:19 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobKrumm

I'm still new at this. Why doesn't this thread show up on the default page? Can someone help me correct this?


23 posted on 10/26/2004 6:42:32 PM PDT by BobKrumm
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To: FreeInWV
Gravel is much more dense than the high explosive in question. You would need several times as many dump trucks.

That's why the rest of us were advising the looters to use 60 foot vans!

24 posted on 10/26/2004 6:43:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FreeInWV
Gravel trucks haul 20 tons at a time. That makes 19 trucks.

Like I said.

25 posted on 10/26/2004 6:44:24 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: FreeInWV

Gravel trucks haul 20 tons at a time. That makes 19 trucks

Yes--20 tons of gravel. Don't confuse weight with volume. For instance, a sack of cement weighs 90 pounds & a much larger sack of dogfood will weigh 40 pounds.

26 posted on 10/26/2004 6:44:53 PM PDT by elli1
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To: BobKrumm; KMC1; AnnaZ; diotima; Carl/NewsMax; doug from upland; kristinn; Congressman Billybob
My nomination for the "Vanity of the Month" award.
27 posted on 10/26/2004 6:44:54 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: BobKrumm

Stand across a room from Rosie O'Donnell and wave a box of Milky Ways.


28 posted on 10/26/2004 6:49:18 PM PDT by xJones
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To: unspun

Spoil sport..No one asked you to play in our sandbox.


29 posted on 10/26/2004 6:50:30 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: BobKrumm

A GREAT post----


For those trying to PICTURE 380 tons, try this:
A Fully-loaded (with fuel) Boeing 747-400 aircraft is 845,000 pounds that is (using the 2,200lb ton) approximately 384.1 TONS

Try moving that!


30 posted on 10/26/2004 6:50:32 PM PDT by fastattacksailor (Edward M. Kennedy: The Naval Hero of Chappaquiddick!)
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To: xJones

Ha


31 posted on 10/26/2004 6:51:18 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: irondog

Probably would take about 4,000 of them Toyota trucks they use over there...


32 posted on 10/26/2004 6:52:00 PM PDT by Coachm
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To: BobKrumm
What does it take to move 380 tons?

a whole bunch of democrats

33 posted on 10/26/2004 6:52:53 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: fastattacksailor

Your post just gave me the image of the planes hitting the twin towers. Talk about a spooky thought...


34 posted on 10/26/2004 6:53:15 PM PDT by Coachm
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To: BobS

My vote is on UN moving it, since they were involved in that other scandal. I really believe it was gone before we got there. THE UN LOST IT ON THEIR WATCH, so LOOK AT THEIR STOCKPILES...OH I forgot that is secret info only Kerry can help you with.


35 posted on 10/26/2004 6:54:00 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: cynicom
Spoil sport..No one asked you to play in our sandbox.

Oh... o-k. Let's just keep this to ourselves. It's not like we can reach Kerry voters with facts and logical arguments, anyway.

Let's take that 760 half-ton pickup truck hypothesis and go with it. Let's send emails to John Kerry and ask him to look into what nasty American company armed Iraq with all those trucks.

36 posted on 10/26/2004 6:55:10 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: BobKrumm

Sorry, it wasn't the Pentagon it was the UN itself.

Here is a link to the whole story and a few snippets.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/



On March 15, said Melissa Fleming, a spokeswoman for the IAEA, “the seals on the doors on the bunkers were checked at many of the bunkers to see if they were still there and hadn’t been tampered with, and that was the case.”

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The Iraq Survey Group discovered that the stockpiles of HMX and RDX were missing on May 27, seven weeks after the last visit by U.S. troops.

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Lt. Col. Fred Wellman, the unit’s spokesman, appeared to confirm NBC’s report in an e-mail message Tuesday to The Associated Press, saying the brigade did not have orders to search for the explosives that Iraqi officials say were stolen.

The soldiers “secured the area they were in and looked in a limited amount of bunkers to ensure chemical weapons were not present in their area,” Wellman wrote. “Bombs were found but not chemical weapons in that immediate area.

“Orders were not given from higher to search or to secure the facility or to search for HE type munitions [high-explosive weapons], as they were everywhere in Iraq,” he wrote.


37 posted on 10/26/2004 6:55:13 PM PDT by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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What does it take to move 380 tons?

Superman?

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

38 posted on 10/26/2004 6:55:22 PM PDT by mhking
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To: unspun

Are you gonna tell on us??? Or are you gonna do something naughty in our sandbox???


39 posted on 10/26/2004 6:57:20 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: BobKrumm

SEE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1256476/posts

Also
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002869.php

He has some interesting estimates!!!


40 posted on 10/26/2004 6:57:43 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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