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Tecumseh's Curse and the Death of President Bush (Tinfoil hat Alert)
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Posted on 10/25/2004 6:42:40 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K

Tecumseh’s Curse

There was a deep mystical tradition among the Shawnee Indians of the Ohio valley, embodied in the teachings and practices of a sage called "the Prophet," emboldened by his brother, the great Chief Tecumseh. Tecumseh felt that all Indians were one people, and insisted that only with the consent of all — could land rightly be ceded by or purchased from an individual tribe. For several years, he successfully journeyed from tribe to tribe, working with Indians of all sections to secure their cooperation in this great work of unification. Tecumseh was a daring visionary -- a powerful orator, remarkable military chief, successful negotiator, and enthusiastic leader. Indeed, the flame of hatred for the white man burned in his heart, and he swore eternal vengeance against the white race for decimating his proud nation.

When the United States refused to recognize Tecumseh’s unification principle, he bound together the Native Americans of the Old Northwest, the South, and the Eastern Mississippi Valley as a military force to defend Native American rights to the land. His plan failed with the defeat of his brother, the Shawnee Prophet, at the battle of Tippecanoe in 1811. Although history reports the battle of Tippecanoe a draw, it nevertheless broke the power of the Shawnee, and became known historically as marking the collapse of the Native American military movement.

Legend transmits that after the historic battle of Tippecanoe, Tecumseh released prisoners with a prophetic message for General William Henry Harrison -- a prophecy that has come to be known as -- "Tecumseh's Curse."

"'Harrison will win next year to be the Great Chief….... He will die in his office….. I who caused the Sun to darken and Red Men to give up firewater tell you Harrison will die. And after him, every Great Chief chosen every 20 years thereafter will die. And when each one dies, let everyone remember the death of our people."

Indeed, in 1841, President William Henry Harrison died of Pneumonia, and for 140 years -- every President elected every 20 years died in office -- except for President Ronald Reagan who survived a close assassination attempt. (Reagan, however, did develop Alzheimer’s, and was the only President to use the timing advice of an astrologer for all public appearances!). Is this just coincidence or the curse from the collective wrath of millions of Native Americans? As George Bush heads toward the completion of his first term, many wonder if he will be the next victim of Tecumseh’s prophetic curse.

Presidential Death Stars

For thousands of years astrologers of antiquity have made a connection between the twenty-year Jupiter-Saturn cycle and major socio-cultural-political events. Jupiter and Saturn are the two most distant planets visible to the naked eye. The ancients regarded Saturn, the boundary between our solar system and the universe -- the "Great Chronocrator" -- a cosmic clock timing significant periods in human history. When faster moving Jupiter crosses over Saturn every 19.8 years, a new cycle begins oftentimes marked by cataclysmic events.

Since 1840, this conjunction has coincided with the Zero-year Presidential elections. When the contraction (Saturn) and expansion (Jupiter) urge merge, there is a certain wringing out of the karmic towel in human affairs. Jupiter rules politicians, Saturn rules death, and the apex of the political archetype is indeed the President. For 120 years until 1960 when the cycle was marginally broken, this conjunction occurred only in Earth signs. Only the 1960 conjunction occurred in an Air sign, and many astrologers attribute President Reagan's assassination escape to this elemental position. But In 2000, the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction returned once again to an Earth sign! Does this portend an incipient visit to the other side by President Bush? Later, we will examine his chart.

Astrologers fall into two camps on which chart to use for the birth of America. One chart shows Scorpio Rising. Scorpio, co-ruled by Pluto and Mars, rules aggression, death, the atomic age, physical health, secrecy, and intensity. Sound familiar? Chart ruler Mars, god of war, sits in the Eighth house of death in America’s chart forming an afflicted square to Neptune which also forms a hard aspect to the Midheaven -- point of national destiny. Though Jupiter and Saturn indeed conjoined in Earth sign Taurus in 2000, the eighth harmonic, the astrological trigger of the chart, won’t be squeezed again until 2005-2006. And the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction is not a precisely timed indicator, occurring every 19.8 years with the deaths averaging every 21 years.

Another popular time-tested chart is the so-called "Gemini-rising" chart, which I used successfully in my book "The Grand Catharsis" to predict many events, including the Persian Gulf War. Famed astrologer Evangeline Adams also used this chart to forecast the US entry into World War II. This chart finds Aquarius — co-ruled by Saturn and Uranus -- on the Midheaven, which signifies the Presidency. The eighth house signifies death, and Capricorn sits on the eighth cusp, making Saturn the ruler of death. Both charts present moderate evidence for this Presidential Death cycle.

Then again, perhaps the Juju of the Native American curse is well beyond the realm of Western astrology.

For the Record

Since Tecumseh's prophetic curse, here are the Presidents every 20 years and the Vice-presidents who inherited the Presidency:

1840, William Henry Harrison Died April 6, 1841 of pneumonia. Vice President John Tyler

1860, Abraham Lincoln Assassinated April 14, 1865 Succeeded by Vice President Andrew Johnson

1880, James Abram Garfield Assassinated July 2, 1881 Succeeded by Vice President Chester Alan Arthur

1900, William McKinley Assassinated September, 6 1901 Succeeded by Vice President Theodore Roosevelt

1920, Warren Gamaliel Harding Died August 2, 1923 from food poisoning Succeeded by Vice President Calvin Coolidge

1940, Franklin Delano Roosevelt Died April 12, 1945, stroke, medical records missing Succeeded by Vice President Harry Truman

1960, John Fitzgerald Kennedy Assassinated November 22, 1963 Succeeded by Vice President Lydon Baines Johnson

1980, Ronald Wilson Reagan Assassination attempt on March 30, 1981 Succeeded by his Vice President George Bush by election.

2000 George W. Bush? Against All Odds

From Washington through Clinton, there have been 47 Presidential elections during which nine Vice Presidents inherited the Presidency -- about 18 percent. And, there have actually been 53 inaugurations, lowering the natural baseline odds of death in office to about 15 percent. For zero years, however, with seven out of a possible eight dying (and the eighth being Reagan), the odds of reoccurrence rise to a meteoric 87.5%.

Bush’s Chart

Examining Bush’s chart always makes me smile as it is the chart of a true "charmer." You may view it in the Chart Gallery on the Lucky Star website at: http://www.luckystarz.com. Transiting Jupiter in Leo has just crossed Bush’s ascendant and will spend most the next six months conjoining his stellium of Leo planets, while sextiling his stellium of Libra planets. President Bush should continue to enjoy popularity and continue to get his way for awhile. However, in about a year, Saturn conjuncts Bush’s Sun at 13 degrees of Cancer! Does Lord of Karma Saturn invoke the Spirit of Chief Tecumseh once again? Time will tell.


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bush; election; firewater; napalminthemorning; tecumsehscurse
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To: DManA

The Shawnee are recognized as a tribe by the US government and their descendents are still around.


21 posted on 10/25/2004 7:12:00 PM PDT by Classicaliberalconservative
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To: M 91 u2 K

No worries...The President trust in Jesus Christ for his covering. He wont leave here before his time.


22 posted on 10/25/2004 7:12:10 PM PDT by swheats
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To: M 91 u2 K
Ah, they're making this stuff up.

The idea that somebody wrote Tecumseh's words down verbatim is nonsense. This story didn't start circulating until years later when somebody noticed the coinkidink of the "0" years - and somebody else remembered that Tecumseh cursed as he went down. (Well, duh, did they think he would say, "Thank you sir. May I have another?")

Just embroidery on a coincidence. Reagan broke it anyhow.

Another silly coincidence: Kennedy was shot on my sister's birthday. Reagan was shot on my birthday. My dad said he's glad he didn't have any more kids, or we'd have presidents dropping like flies . . .

23 posted on 10/25/2004 7:15:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Everything goes thru God. These presidents living or dieing was his will. The Indians were treated wrong and I can understand the anger but I hope today that they pray with us for our president's safety.


24 posted on 10/25/2004 7:17:52 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: M 91 u2 K

No mention that Tecumseh was a racist rejected by his own people the Shawnee and expelled from the tribe. Instead the Shawnee chief Blackfoot opposed Tecumseh and sought to live in harmony amongst and within the framework of the United States. But thanks to the actions of the white-hating racist Tecumseh the remaining peaceful Shawnee were expelled from the Ohio valley. I'm part Wyandot and of those who remained free in Ohio descended in part from Blackfoot through one of his nieces. The Shawnee, Delaware and Wyandot did engage in inter-tribal marriages. That's what I know of Tecumseh, the white-hating racist. Only a small minority of Indians joined up with Tecumseh. He was not Great. Just another leftist historical revisionist myth, an Indian version of David Duke.


25 posted on 10/25/2004 7:19:19 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Like a fluttering sparrow or a darting swallow, an undeserved curse does not come to rest. God bless our President.


26 posted on 10/25/2004 7:19:48 PM PDT by leenie312 (1 John:4-6)
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To: M 91 u2 K
"2000 George W. Bush? Against All Odds"

That's right, the man can handle his pretzels.

27 posted on 10/25/2004 7:20:40 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: M 91 u2 K

Native American JUJU? Who knew?


28 posted on 10/25/2004 7:22:26 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: M 91 u2 K

All of Tecumseh's prophecies came from his nutty brother, who was a drunk and a liar, and a false spiritual leader.

I can't remember his name. He was loco.


29 posted on 10/25/2004 7:23:45 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: M 91 u2 K
I who caused the Sun to darken and Red Men to give up firewater tell you Harrison will die.

The sun still shines and alcholism is rampid among the Indian communities. So much for this @sshole! Hit King Tut next!

30 posted on 10/25/2004 7:28:08 PM PDT by Bommer (“ Bush met the First Lady at a BBQ? That's Love brotha!" - stainlessbanner)
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To: Palladin

Jesse Jackson?


31 posted on 10/25/2004 7:28:36 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Is the Republican attack machine an assault weapon?)
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To: AnAmericanMother
"The idea that somebody wrote Tecumseh's words down verbatim is nonsense. This story didn't start circulating until years later when somebody noticed the coinkidink of the "0" years - and somebody else remembered that Tecumseh cursed as he went down."

I would have to agree. I have read a lot about Tecumseh ("Panther in the Sky") and have never heard of the "curse" before. Strange that all of the historians would miss out on this amazing curse. Tecumseh was a great Chief, though. He learned fluent english as a youth from Blue Jacket, a white man captured by the Shawnee as a boy and raised by the Shawnee to become a respected Chief in his own right.

Tecumseh had no inate "hate" for the white man and developed friendships with many whites. (including the Galloway family who are rumored to have told Tecumseh about an upcoming elclipse providing him with the info to make his famous prophecy about the sun disappearing at noon on a specific day). Tecumseh worked to keep his tribe away from alcohol and ended the use of torture as a form of entertanment for the tribe. He considered it unmanly to torture a captured opponent. Also, Tecumseh tried to negotiate with Harrison and his predecessors until he finally decided it was useless.

If you would like to learn more about Tecumseh and the famous frontiersman Simon Kenton, check out "The Frontiersman" by Alan Eckert. It's written as a narrative story, but is highly researched and footnoted. It reads like an Indiana Jones story, but it's all true.

32 posted on 10/25/2004 7:40:34 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

One of my ancestors was in a skirmish with Tecumseh around 1789 or so when some Shawnee warriors attacked the small settlement on the frontier of western Virginia where he lived.

As my ancestor and the other men fired at them, Tecumseh and the other warriors captured a woman and her small children who lived in a cabin nearby and took them into the woods before scalping and tomahawking them to death.


33 posted on 10/25/2004 7:41:19 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Proud member of P.O.O.P., People Offended by Offended People.)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Oh jeez not this crap again.


34 posted on 10/25/2004 7:42:31 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (W stands for We dont need no stinkin global test)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Sounds like somebody's wishful thinking to me.


35 posted on 10/25/2004 7:51:08 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Too Funny
36 posted on 10/25/2004 7:59:58 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Palladin
nutty brother, who was a drunk and a liar, and a false spiritual leader."

Whooooaa. Sounds like a distant cousin married into the Kerry Family!!

Burst Laughing

37 posted on 10/25/2004 8:03:12 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: AnAmericanMother
somebody else remembered that Tecumseh cursed as he went down. (Well, duh, did they think he would say, "Thank you sir. May I have another?")

ROTFLMAO

38 posted on 10/25/2004 8:49:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Can I get me a second ballot here?)
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To: joebuck
check out "The Frontiersman" by Alan Eckert.

I read that. It's great! I have several other Alan Eckert books but haven't found time to read them yet. Those books are real history, they're not touched up to make anyone look good. Or bad.

39 posted on 10/25/2004 8:58:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Can I get me a second ballot here?)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Lets throw a few others in here which might break up the 20 year cycle using the same principals.

The attempted murder of Andrew Jackson by a nut. His pistols misfired.
The shooting of Theodore Roosevelt. He still made his speach.
The atttempted murder of Franklin D Roosevelt. Chicago Mayor Cermak was killed instead.
The attempted murder of Harry Truman by Puerto Rico terrorists. They shot up the congress instead.


40 posted on 10/25/2004 9:25:04 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (DEMS STILL LIE like dirty dam flea biten stinkin tick infested s*** eatin yellow dogs.)
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