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To: ShadowAce

Nah. Ff's okay, I suppose, but no-nmovable tabs at the TOP of the screen are clunky and counter-intuitive.

Plus, it's snotty.

One can't bury one's head in the sand: most things are written for IE. When I pointed out to the Mozilla people that early FF had a bug that wouldn't allow it to exploit the features of a page, they snottily replied that this was because the page was written improperly. So they'd not fix it -- because it wasn't a bug.

Of course, all I cared (and care) about is that I can use the page. The bottom line, then, is that Ff wouldn't read it, and my browser would.

My browser is Avant Browser, which is built on IE. (Go to www.avantbrowser.com.) Popup blocker, movable tabs at the bottom of the screen, many other features.

It's free, it's just as fast, it's neat -- and it's written to use what 99.9% of the internet is written to use.

In other words, it's not snotty.

Dan


4 posted on 10/07/2004 5:41:20 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
"In other words, it's not snotty."

Actually, it's Internet Explorer that is "snotty", because Microsoft refuses to adhere to published standards--preferring to continue to try and control access by developing and promoting Microsoft-proprietary protocols.

17 posted on 10/07/2004 5:56:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: BibChr
Well, you make a good point about web validation, however, Firefox validates for everything that I use it for, including my online banking, shopping, etc.

Most every site validates for IE and Netscape (which is what Firefox is based on).

Now, as far as style and usability, that's a personal preferene. I prefer the tabbed browsing, though I do get caught hitting "Alt+Tab" sometimes to flip between pages (but that is a result of having so many years of windows conditioning). I like Firefox. I have also been using Thunderbird for email and find that email program to be quite good (doesn't have all of the code bloat that Outlook has).

22 posted on 10/07/2004 6:01:04 AM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: BibChr
I suppose, but no-nmovable tabs at the TOP of the screen are clunky and counter-intuitive. This can be changed by an extension Here: http://white.sakura.ne.jp/~piro/xul/xul.html.en
33 posted on 10/07/2004 6:12:35 AM PDT by Truth Table
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To: BibChr
That early FF had a bug that wouldn't allow it to exploit the features of a page, they snottily replied that this I use an extension view Page in IE when I come up on this issue. To be honest, I have not run into too many of them. The only thing I really use IE for now is if I want to save a page as an archive (mht). FireFox or mozilla does not have an analog as yet to my knowledge.
51 posted on 10/07/2004 6:28:36 AM PDT by Truth Table
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To: BibChr

I was prowling around the Extensions downloads for FF earlier...there's one to move tabs around on about the second or third page. I haven't tried it as I'm trying to keep things lean and mean for an ancient puter, and it's not something that I would really use even if I wasn't keeping it as streamlined as I can. While FF has a rather nasty (IMO, and it may just be my slow puter) tendency to slow down when playing one MIDI and trying to dl another, that's about the only thing I can find wrong with it. I've learned to love tabbed browsing, it's overall speed and sleek appearance, and a plugin to answer all of my dearest hopes called Down Them All. If you commonly check MIDI sites and grab a lot, or any sort of e-texts, this thing will save you so much time and hassle. I strongly urge you to update to the latest version and try again...I was a fervent IE supporter til I tried this and they made a believer out of me.


121 posted on 10/07/2004 4:01:08 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (Why are you looking at me so funny? He's just a rat...)
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