3. 2 Corinthians 12:12 (Niv) The things that mark an apostlesigns, wonders and miracleswere done among you with great perseverance,
I'm not quite sure what the author meant to prove with the particular commentary that he put with that scripture. Suffice it to say that this verse associates miracles with apostles. Bear in mind that it is difficult to put up an argument when your opponent has put up a straw man for you. I'm not sure I would use this scripture when arguing against modern day gifts, but since it's been presented I see nothing wrong with it along those lines.
4. Ephesians 2:20 [The church] having been built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone.
Another scripture I would not use to argue Pentecostalism.
5. Revelation 22:18-19
Yet another scripture I would not use to argue with you. This is why I wanted YOU to respond to what I said. Because now I am being forced to respond to something you said in response to something I didn't say. But I would like to address something that came up in the gentlemans writing. The author tells a story of a prophecy one of his family members recieved, then he had this to say ...
I do not put this prophetic word on a par with the eternal logos of God, of course, but affirm that the simple little prophecy was one hundred percent accurate and a remarkable assurance to Debbie.
So is he saying that some words of God are not as much words of God as the written word ? God places more emphasis on the written than the spoken ? No. If there are such things as modern prophecy (which there isn't) then I submit that they must necessarily be on an equal footing with the written scripture.
Answer 2: Prophecy Complements Scripture
2 Tim 3:16-17 says that scripture doesn't NEED to be complemented.
Answer 3: Historical Evidence Exists for Miraculous Gifts
Since this was a simple assertion I will answer it in kind: No it doesn't.
Answer 4: Proper Use Invalidates Misuse
That's quite a strange argument, and it is backwards from what I'm used to seeing: "Misuse does not invalidate proper use". If that's what is meant, then I will have to agree because I have used that principle in other arguments. The thing is, the bible tells us what is the mark of a false prophet. It is if what he says doesn't come true. If you know of a prophet with a 100% success rate, let me know. I'm told that a 30-35% success rate is considered phenomenal in today's world. I call that a false prophet, and so does the bible.
Seeing as how I have destroyed your argument, I supposed now you are going to yell at me to quite hijacking "your" thread. Don't worry, I don't plan on posting here again unless someone puts up another argument for me to counter.
Hey, I was waiting for Part II, too. 8~)
Here's a link to the great and glorious Westminster Larger Catechism --
http://www.reformed.org/documents/larger1.html
And from that link...
"Question 31: With whom was the covenant of grace made?
Answer: The covenant of grace was made with Christ as the second Adam, and in him with all the elect as his seed.
Question 32: How is the grace of God manifested in the second covenant?
Answer: The grace of God is manifested in the second covenant, in that he freely provides and offers to sinners a Mediator, and life and salvation by him; and requiring faith as the condition to interest them in him, promises and gives his Holy Spirit to all his elect, to work in them that faith, with all other saving graces; and to enable them unto all holy obedience, as the evidence of the truth of their faith and thankfulness to God, and as the way which he has appointed them to salvation.
Question 33: Was the covenant of grace always administered after one and the same manner?
Answer: The covenant of grace was not always administered after the same manner, but the administrations of it under the Old Testament were different from those under the New.
Question 34: How was the covenant of grace administered under the Old Testament?
Answer: The covenant of grace was administered under the Old Testament, by promises, prophecies, sacrifices, circumcision, the passover, and other types and ordinances, which did all foresignify Christ then to come, and were for that time sufficient to build up the elect in faith in the promised Messiah, by whom they then had full remission of sin, and eternal salvation.
Question 35: How is the covenant of grace administered under the New Testament?
Answer: Under the New Testament, when Christ the substance was exhibited, the same covenant of grace was and still is to be administered in the preaching of the Word, and the administration of the sacraments of Baptism and the Lord's Supper; in which grace and salvation are held forth in more fulness, evidence, and efficacy, to all nations..."
There's no need nor instruction to scare ourselves with anything of this world. He draws us to Him and gives to us in Scripture complete protection beneath the shadow of His wings.
If that posting convinced you that you'd destroyed ANY of the MANY points which destroyed the logic and highlighted the UNBiblicalness of Cessationism . . .
I'm amazed that you manage to . . .
read a Scripture plainly and straightforwardly from the beginning of a paragraph to the end. I'd think it would become all a confusing, convoluted jumble for you--similar to your 'logic' about cessationism and the opposite--that is, the true Biblical stance on the issues.