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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; UsnDadof8
I don't know who called you names or who tried to get you banned, but it wasn't me and I doubt it was Eckleburg or Dad either. That's also quite irrational for you to say as I have always trusted you fully and we have prayed for each other in the past.

I believe in private dreams from the Lord and the instances you have listed above are just that. There is no revelation to mankind as a whole in them. As I said, visions are something else altogether, and they are not individual's nightmares.

Eckleburg, Dad and I have done our job as scripture calls us to do. You didn't like it, but that's not our fault. We were careful to only post what the Lord has revealed in Scripture and there were none of our own feelings evident in condemning, what does the Lord call it? divinery.

405 posted on 10/09/2004 11:00:30 AM PDT by D Edmund Joaquin (There are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit and the water and the blood 1 John 5:8)
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

I appreciate the tone and charity in this response I'm replying to. Thanks tons.

The poison and seemingly proud, haughty comments about the poster's efforts to get me banned are above in the thread. I think it was USNDADOF8 but may have been more than him, too.

I think Scriptural exchanges could have honorably been engaged in on another thread. That would have been "DOING UNTO OTHERS" as Jesus taught. When there's so much resistence to doing the honorable forum rules abiding thing AND also tons of such haughty hostility and poison ON TOP OF what I construe as very unBiblical stances--all in the act of hijacking--stealing a thread a brother started for a different purpose--it becomes quickly outrageous.

Perhaps I and some friends need to wait for you folks to start a thread and we'll return the 'favor.' I begin to doubt you'll get a clue any other way.

I'm blessed to read that you can imagine that there are God given personal dreams. It never really convincingly sounded so earlier in the thread. At least, not by the other two.

I still disagree in the sense that some dreams do seem to be for the whole Body of Christ, indeed for all mankind--whoever will tune into them and profit from them. God gives sooooo liberally and upbraids not. I think Oral Roberts' vision will turn out that way. I was prepared to be exceedingly skeptical because of some bias I have against him--which I guess I'll have to adjust. But, it rang true in my spirit. We shall see what God confirms. I expect the sign in the sky more or less exactly as Oral related it. Sounds like God. Feels like a God-plan in my spirit.

I don't know why you'd think it irrational for me to point out hostilities, repeated pushes of the abuse button and insistences that I be banned--repeatedly bragged about on this thread. And you three are essentially the only ones posting such messages. I don't actually recall a single other person doing so.

I don't think you are being honest about your group not posting feelings. Your feelings leaked out and were thrown out forcefully quite routinely.

The Scripture does NOT call dreams and visions birthed by Holy Spirit "divinery." In fact, doing so could easily be construed as blasphemy against Holy Spirit--something Father has very strong feelings about. Talk about needing to exercise caution!!!

I have also been as responsible, more or less, as I know how to be in this context to God and Scripture according to the understandings HE has led me to over my life.

I can give a good deal of grace to other believers about things over which reasonable people can differ. However, the RELIGIOUS SPIRIT/PHARISEE attitudes, tones, stances etc. are exceedingly hideous and deadly regardless of the particular denominatioal distinctives that are fronting for such. The Lord has built into me a fierce response to that evil. It's nothing personal.

May God guide each of us into the closest possible relationship with Him and deeper into HIS PASSION FOR HIS PRIORITIES.

Blessings,


408 posted on 10/09/2004 11:23:32 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

THIS IS A PERSONAL REPLY TO DEJ. HOWEVER, GIVEN that the posts were public, it's reasonable that this be. So, I decided not to FREEPMAIL it. QX




"I think it is the height of irresponsibility to post about the assassination of President Bush, even as a retelling of your dream.

You should ask the moderator to remove your post.

You stew and spin about prophetic dreams, and then you foolishly offer this." --Dr E 107




Get a grip, Quix. You posted irresponsibly. I'll pray for your lucidity and well-being. --DR E 111




To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator
Quix, it is YOUR posts that are replete with both "cheeky arrogance" and biblical unsoundness. You just need to recuse yourself so as to avoid further embarrassment to yourself and everybody else.

125 posted on 10/07/2004 7:06:17 AM MDT by UsnDadof8 (Proud Virginian)



The "Proud" part seems clear enough!



Sadly, there is none so blind as one who will not see. Stop twisting the scriptures to your own hurt. And don't tell me where to post or not to post, thank you. I see the LORD has deemed to allow you time to post to this thread still, just not to an honest debate. You really take the cake. --USNDAD 130



For a person who has no time for a one on one debate format with me, you sure do have time for meaningless rhetoric. I'm sure the Lord approves of that. USN DAD 137




You posted very irresponsibly, IMO. If you had made this assertion on a telephone, you'd have men in suits at your doorstop this morning.

I'm pinging the brass on FR to clarify if making statements like these are permissible or prudent at this time. 138 posted on 10/07/2004 11:47:32 AM MDT by Dr. Eckleburg




You really need help. Do you realize that ? --USNDAD 160




You are crazy. I am no longer going to reply to you. I'll let the moderator do it. --USN DAD 167




But that's what your thread advocates -- the emotional, irrational response. --Dr E 169




PS I did push the abuse button for your post #158. Bringing someone's family, whom you don't even know, into any FR thread is completely inappropriate and I hope your sorry butt gets banned for it. 171 posted on 10/07/2004 1:50:14 PM MDT by UsnDadof8




QX. BTW, USN DAD, The point still stands--you have not denied it. It's a very fitting and excellent illustration of why it is unlikely that you are as sensitive to Holy Spirit and as discerning as you hold yourself out to be on this thread. It is also a very fitting illustration of why it is unlikely that your understanding of such subtle to not so subtle COMMUNICATIONS from HOLY SPIRIT is not logically apt to be any better than your understanding of your own children. I have often seen that correlation rather strongly. If you didn't have such thin skin about it, you might be able to learn something by the example and Holy Spirit's elaborations to you.




Not only that but you are a very bad liar. 174 posted on 10/07/2004 1:59:33 PM MDT by UsnDadof8




You're leading the charge right off the cliff.

And we're supposed to believe you can "interpret" dreams when you clearly contradict your own posts within a matter of hours (dare I say "lie?") [NO CONTRADICTION AT ALL. SUCH A STATEMENT IS INDICATIVE OF THE LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ON THE PART OF THE POSTER, DR E]

Get a grip. You've crossed the line on propriety and common sense; you're now bordering on becoming dangerous.

--DR E 175




As I said, if you had been on the telephone, you'd be visited by men in suits in no time. Give me your number; I'll have them call you anyway. 182 posted on 10/07/2004 3:01:40 PM MDT by Dr. Eckleburg

[I'm sorry your assessment of their reading and logic skills is so low. There would REALLY be a huge danger if you were right about THAT!]




I'm dropping out of this discussion, lest your idiotic, dangerous ramblings about a very serious subject cause you to post it even one more time. 192 posted on 10/07/2004 3:47:43 PM MDT by Dr. Eckleburg




QX: THE FOLLOWING is one of the most extreme examples of BRAZEN self-serving blind hypocrisy and cheekiness I've ever found on FR. He was repeatedly instructed, begged to start his own thread instead of stealing, hijacking this one. He refuses yet dares to say this:

Thirdly, who made YOU the Thread Police ? I finally found someone who wishes to intelligently discuss scriptures, so kindly butt out. --USNDAD 223




Just for the record I have asked twice that this thread be locked or removed. We have an obviously "not right in the mind" person who is close to starting a riot. Quix, you must be Jim Rob's sister or something, because I can think of no other reason why this thread still exists or why you are still here. 264 posted on 10/08/2004 12:25:13 PM MDT by UsnDadof8




NOW--I REALLY DO NOT *CARE* a gnat's fart's worth about the insults. When one has been a bird of rare plumage sent on hazardous missions as long as I have--it comes with the territory and becomes laughable.

But when the other side gets thin skinned and whines about insults, it's time to consider a comparison just for illustration and educational purposes. As I recently revised my personal FR page . . . when folks send me hardballs spiked with poisoned nails, I'm not likely to return marshmellows or SKERRY SPITWADS.

Silly rabbits!


432 posted on 10/09/2004 1:03:06 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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