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KERRY: "We intercepted a suitcase ... with nuclear materials in it" (???)
vanity | Sept. 30, 2001 | self

Posted on 09/30/2004 8:52:57 PM PDT by Madstrider

During the debate, Kerry said: "There are some 600-plus tons of unsecured material still in the former Soviet Union and Russia. At the rate that the president is currently securing that, it will take 13 years to get it.
"I did a lot of work on this. I wrote a book about it several years ago, maybe six or seven years ago, called, 'The New War,' which saw the difficulties of this international criminal network. And back then, we intercepted a suitcase in a Middle Eastern country with nuclear materials in it, and the black market sale price was about $250 million. Now, there are terrorists trying to get their hands on that stuff today."

Is this a real "suitcase nuke" incident? Anybody ever heard of this?


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To: savedbygrace

BUMP!


21 posted on 09/30/2004 9:09:47 PM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: Madstrider; section9
"[B]ack then, we intercepted a suitcase in a Middle Eastern country with nuclear materials in it, and the black market sale price was about $250 million. Now, there are terrorists trying to get their hands on that stuff today."

Did he just spill classified info, or was his debate briefing done by Robert Ludlum?

22 posted on 09/30/2004 9:11:12 PM PDT by Petronski (DEMS: Kim tested, Osama approved.)
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To: wvromania

Yes!! That was another thing that shocked me. He wants to give Iran nuclear fuel and see what they do with it.

What an idiot!


23 posted on 09/30/2004 9:11:51 PM PDT by indubitably
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To: Petronski

Nice tagline, Petronski ;)


24 posted on 09/30/2004 9:12:20 PM PDT by blogbat (Holding Out for 2008)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Calpernia

ping


25 posted on 09/30/2004 9:12:46 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: blogbat
"Nuclear materials" sounds an awful lot like "Foreign Leaders" to me.

Exactly. He's suggesting "we" actually found somebody with a "suitcase nuke" -- he even authoritatively cites the "black market" price..

Well, this is NEWS TO ME!

26 posted on 09/30/2004 9:14:36 PM PDT by Madstrider (The right wing conspiracy isn't really so vast -- we just work overtime)
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To: indubitably

He just wants to conduct a scientific experiment. Soft of like giving a monkey a box of chocolates and watching him to see what he will do.

Alternatively since he is a liberal lawyer, he probably believes in furlows and special programs for criminal "rehabilitation". Maybe Kerry feels the Iranians really just need to feel trusted...


27 posted on 09/30/2004 9:14:46 PM PDT by blogbat (Holding Out for 2008)
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To: Madstrider

At that price, Kerry and TRRREEEZZZAAAAA could buy quite a few of those nasty things off the market!


28 posted on 09/30/2004 9:15:58 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Kerry broke the faith, pure and simple.)
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To: Madstrider

Kerry got it from the movie "Sum of All Fears."

The man lives in Fantasyland.

He didn't even know that it was Carter who put the sanctions on Iran in 1979.

He blamd Bush.

Kerry is the Prince of Dorkness.


29 posted on 09/30/2004 9:16:17 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Madstrider

Something tells me to watch this though. Remember Ted Kennedy and the Dems marched out the Nuke thing last week. They definately think this is their prize toy poodle.


30 posted on 09/30/2004 9:16:21 PM PDT by blogbat (Holding Out for 2008)
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To: sport
When?

According to Kerry, "back then"!

31 posted on 09/30/2004 9:16:26 PM PDT by Madstrider (The right wing conspiracy isn't really so vast -- we just work overtime)
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To: blogbat

Why thank you. I believe you ate Kix when you were a kid (or you get them for your own kids). ;O)


32 posted on 09/30/2004 9:17:04 PM PDT by Petronski (DEMS: Kim tested, Osama approved.)
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To: Palladin

"Kerry is the Prince of Dorkness."

Nice


33 posted on 09/30/2004 9:17:16 PM PDT by blogbat (Holding Out for 2008)
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To: Petronski

Definately Kix. Trix are for senators...


34 posted on 09/30/2004 9:18:12 PM PDT by blogbat (Holding Out for 2008)
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To: Madstrider; Howlin
Still reading and looking .. but on page 116 of his book it says this


And we also know that in five years the red flag came down over the Kremlin, there have been more then eight hundred attempts to smuggle nuclear material out of the Russian and former Soviet republics. In late 1995, twenty-seven crates of Russian beryllium, useful for high-grade nuclear weaponry, were intercepted in Lithuania en route to a buyer in Switzerland who was probably representing North Korea. Guidance gyrocopes from Russian ballistic missiles were seized in a storage shed at Amman airport in Jordan, awaiting transshipment to Iraq. Three former Soviet citizens were arrested in Munich carrying a lead lined suitcase containing 363 grams of the 4,000 grams of nuclear material needed to make a crude bomb. The material was being offered at $350 million.
35 posted on 09/30/2004 9:18:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Madstrider
I wrote a book about it several years ago, maybe six or seven years ago, called, 'The New War,'

And I thought he was going to mention his other book, The New Soldier.

36 posted on 09/30/2004 9:19:28 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (One Day at A Time || Blue Angel in PJs)
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To: Mo1

Darn it. John Kerry was right. Why oh why did we end communism ;)


37 posted on 09/30/2004 9:19:44 PM PDT by blogbat (Holding Out for 2008)
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To: Madstrider

Here's an e-mail sent from Terry McAwfull, so let's all help him out!!!


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And be sure to check the websites of your local newspapers and TV stations for online polls. It is crucial that you do this in the minutes immediately following the debate.


38 posted on 09/30/2004 9:20:39 PM PDT by danamco
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To: bear11

Thanks for checking. Wouldn't the apprehension of some guy "in the Middle East" with a suitcase full of "nuclear material" have made headlines? Or is this something Kerry picked up when he was on the Intelligence Committee? ... Oh, wait, I almost forgot: He never showed up for those committee hearings ....


39 posted on 09/30/2004 9:21:05 PM PDT by Madstrider (The right wing conspiracy isn't really so vast -- we just work overtime)
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To: Madstrider

See link on: The 1990s: Case studies of clandestine acquisition of materials for Weapons of Mass Destruction

http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/06-10-2002.asp

NO MENTION OF NUCLEAR SUITCASE BEING APPREHENDED! ONLY COMPONENTS OF RADIOACTIVE MATERIALS.

Interesting paragraph from site:
Given the long-standing friendship and special relations between Russia and Iraq, the long-standing operational relationship between the Russian intelligence services (the GRU in particular) and Iraqi intelligence services and the personality of Sadam Hussein, the nuclear suitcase bomb would be Iraq’s - and Al Qaida’s - most valuable terrorist weapon – terrorism which could not be traced or predicted - terrorism without a return address.


40 posted on 09/30/2004 9:22:35 PM PDT by bear11 ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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