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Vanity: Why Don't We Implant Tracking Devices For All Our Personnel In Iraq?
9/22/04 | JohnnyCap

Posted on 09/22/2004 5:29:43 PM PDT by johnnycap

Forgive me for this vanity post but I had an idea that I thought merited discussion. Today, while thinking about the most recent beheadings in Iraq, it occurred to me that perhaps, if we implanted all personnel, military and civilian in Iraq with a tracking device, there might only be one more kidnapping. My hope in posting this is that someone who might be in a position to consider the idea might be lurking here. Thanks for indulging me.


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To: johnnycap

It is a good idea. here is the link to an article I googled. Looks like we're a ways off from getting there, but this company is thinking the same way you are. It would be so awesome to bust into al-Zarqawi's lair right as they were into their chanting and reading the Koran BS and then behead HIM right on the the internet telecast. I know it would never happen, but I am so incensed at these guys it has led me to fantasize about nailing them for the whole world to see. The GPS thing would work.


41 posted on 09/22/2004 5:43:17 PM PDT by DeepSthBoy
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To: DeepSthBoy

Sorry

here's the link:

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993740


42 posted on 09/22/2004 5:44:10 PM PDT by DeepSthBoy
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To: blogblogginaway
WorldnetDaily article on Digital Angel from 2000
43 posted on 09/22/2004 5:47:46 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: johnnycap
Sorry to inject some reality into your thread, but would you want to be the manufacturer or insurer of said manufacturer when the first of these devices failed, or caused someone to lose an arm or leg in pursuit of one of these devices? Would you want to be the person explaining your quality control procedures to some widow?

These devices are in the planning stages for military personnel, but no company will sell these devices for the use that you describe because of the liability potential. No civilians will ever get one of these devices without full government protection from lawsuits.

44 posted on 09/22/2004 5:49:36 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: johnnycap

...because the terrorists would un-implant them from all hostages.

...real tragedy for all who didn't have the implants, especially if the implants were buried next to vitals.
Duh.

And therefore, it would be a waste of money to another snake oil contractor.
45 posted on 09/22/2004 5:49:57 PM PDT by familyop (Mapes, lurking, leftist apes...)
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To: Noachian
Not only that, but how in the hell would you PMCS it?

Also, a GPS tracker is going to transmit a signal, encrypted or not. Even if the enemy can't see what the signal says (PFC Snuffy, Joe - LOC 18SUU8362601432 "Mama-San's Bar, Table 4") they could locate where it eminated from with radio direction finders. I'd much rather take my chances being a sneaky SOB rather then radiating a 'tattletale' Nanny-signal for the enemy to DF.

46 posted on 09/22/2004 5:50:18 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Don't make me roll initiative...!)
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To: johnnycap

Ahh the hell with it. Let's just do what the Russians do and round up the known family members of the terrorists, saw their heads off and post them on the internet until our citizens are released unharmed.

OHHH - HOW HORRIBLE!!!

OK...well then...let's just bomb Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima and Nagasaki again, packed with civilians who have as much relation with the attackers of Pearl Harbor - DNA-wise - as the people that sawed off the heads of these innocent Americans.

Either we get a perspective...or we lose.


47 posted on 09/22/2004 5:53:12 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (The Left is smart enough to know the truth, but low enough not to care.)
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To: mystery-ak
Where would you put it....an arm, they'd cut the arm off...the torso, they'd cut it out and probably kill you doing so...it would have to be he size of a computer chip.....

And, if its trackable by us, its trackable by them as well (or it will be within a short period of time). We don't need to telegraph our movements.

48 posted on 09/22/2004 5:56:07 PM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: longtermmemmory
because it would make every military person have a built in homing signal for the enemy to use.

Its not too hard to tell who is an American in Iraq.

I'm surprised there hasn't been a non-implanted tracker carried on a lanyard by everyone over there. Maybe the military already does this.
49 posted on 09/22/2004 5:58:36 PM PDT by lelio
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To: AFreeBird

The chips Applied Digital sells (VeriChip) is the same as the chip that's implanted in animals. Recently some Mexican Govt. officials were implanted with the VeriChip but it is only for access to secure area purposes. The chip is doemant till scanned. The VeriChip is NOT GPS capable.




"He said the chips were required to enter a new federal anti-crime information center.

"It's only for access, for security," he said.

The chips also could provide more certainty about who accessed sensitive data at any given time. In the past, the biggest security problem for Mexican law enforcement has been corruption by officials themselves.

Chips read by RFID scanners
Aceves said his company eventually hopes to provide Mexican officials with implantable devices that can track their physical location at any given time, but that technology is still under development.

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The chips that have been implanted are manufactured by VeriChip Corp., a subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions Inc. of Palm Beach, Fla.

They lie dormant under the skin until read by an electromagnetic scanner, which uses a technology known as radio frequency identification, or RFID, that's now getting hot in the inventory and supply chain businesses."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5439055/


50 posted on 09/22/2004 5:58:42 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: Steel Wolf
When I was in Iraq we had what's called 'BlueFor trackers'

Now I have the "We just figured out Blues Clues. We just figured out Blues Clues" song going through my head.
51 posted on 09/22/2004 6:00:08 PM PDT by lelio
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To: johnnycap

We're all going to have to have them eventually, so why waste time?


52 posted on 09/22/2004 6:00:48 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (www.protestwarrior.com)
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To: johnnycap

Mark of the Beast?


53 posted on 09/22/2004 6:02:26 PM PDT by blteague
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To: blteague; Bobby777
God of forces, indeed.
54 posted on 09/22/2004 6:11:36 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: blogblogginaway
I'm a little confused as to what you're trying to tell me here.
55 posted on 09/22/2004 6:16:10 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: AFreeBird

Simply that the VeriChip which is the chip WND refers to is not GPS capable. In other words, it can't track anything or anyone.


56 posted on 09/22/2004 6:24:18 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: COURAGE

Why not just a transmitter in a wristwatch??? The nicer looking the watch, the better.... Even if the wearer does get it taken from him, the bad guys arent just going to throw a nice looking watch on the side of the road... they'll wear it... keep it as a trophy... Keep it till they can sell it... meanwhile, its telling the goodguys where the snakepit is...


57 posted on 09/22/2004 6:36:20 PM PDT by The Hollywood Conservative
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To: johnnycap
I wonder how many people have stopped themselves from asking this same question before.

Sometimes I have questions that I am afraid to ask and would want to ask the question to Rumsfeld or some authority that I could trust instead of alerting the world.

But then I have no access to such an authority so I start assuming these are the experts so they have considered the same thing but it is a nagging assumption.

In a perfect world, there would be a screener ( optional, not mandatory ) that one could run such questions by.
58 posted on 09/22/2004 6:36:52 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: Searching4Justice
How about a 'catch, lo-jack and release' program for the terrorists????

(Happy2BMe mentioned this on another thread)

59 posted on 09/22/2004 6:39:10 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: blogblogginaway
Right, because back in 2000 when they introduced "Digital Angel" a lot of peole here and elsewhere screamed bloody murder over it, which is why you see no mention of it on their website which now promotes the "pet" VeriChip.

Make no mistake, the technology exists, its been proven, it was all ready to be rolled out as the next greatest thing. The chip receives power from muscular motion and can relay GPS data to receivers. And I'm not talking hand wand scanners like they use on your pet at the pound.

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60 posted on 09/22/2004 7:14:38 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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