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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread TWO!

Posted on 09/18/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?

A few of us thought it would be interesting and informative to have a chat thread where we can share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the last thread we had a great time and were a great help to each other working through lessons and training, horse lamenesses and illnesses, questions and challenges and always just our stories we like to tell.

I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!

I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.

So... like the last thread, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Hobbies; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: bootsandsaddle; leatherharness; saddleclub
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To: Rose of Sharn
Thanks. Maybe at bedtime but alcohol knocks me out. It's getting sunny and nice outside. There are still patches of snow in shadows to remind us but it's almost gone. We went to K-Marts and I got attacked by a little old lady in a rolling walker. Someone stopped their basket ahead of me and she was behind. Stuff in the aisles but really no room to go around (or so I thought). She started ramming my basket with her walker. I told her "ma'am there is no place for me to go". She didn't seem to hear me and kept hitting my basket until she could squeeze thru and then pushed by the woman ahead of me:')
6,361 posted on 12/26/2004 10:02:14 AM PST by CindyDawg (364 days until Christmas!)
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To: CindyDawg
We went to K-Marts and I got attacked by a little old lady in a rolling walker.

ROTFL!

6,362 posted on 12/26/2004 10:04:37 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Rose of Sharn

First, I thought of this when we were going to town. Be sure to spray the navel several times a day with iodine for a week or so. They can get some really bad illness thru the navel.

I put a halter on our baby about the 2nd day, for short periods without a lead rope. I didn't leave it. Just put it on let her get use to the feel, then take it off. About 2 days of that and I attached a lead rope, but never pulled on it, except to gently turn her head. If she went back I went with her putting the slighest pressure on the halter. As soon as she stopped I would let off the pressure and pat her. If I wanted her to come forward I'd put the slightest pressure on the halter and as soon as she came forward, even if it was accidental, I'd let the pressure off and pat. She was leading well by the time she was 2 wks old. I never tied her tho, till she was older. it's amazing how fast they can learn to give to the slighest amount of pressure.

Becky


6,363 posted on 12/26/2004 10:11:21 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: HairOfTheDog; CindyDawg

This is Deaconjim.

Thanks for letting me know that. I have yet to get the color names figured out.

He wasn't too eager to be touched, but got a little more used to it. The first time I went in this morning, he walked right up to me and let me handle him a little.

RoS just came and got me because the foal was down. After a good bit of handling to make sure he wasn't injured, I manage to get him on his feet (with a good bit of lifting). He's up and walking with Misty, and trying to nurse, but he still seems weak. Should we be concerned?


6,364 posted on 12/26/2004 10:11:41 AM PST by Rose of Sharn
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To: Rose of Sharn

Not at all, the foal needs sleep and should be left alone to do it. She'll lay down most times when she's not running or eating. Providing a dry place for them both to lay down would be best... dump some shavings out there if the ground is wet and slushy still and let them sleep.


6,365 posted on 12/26/2004 10:13:42 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Rose of Sharn

Have you seen him nurse? Do you know that he is getting something? You should be able to see gulps going down as he swallows.

Becky


6,366 posted on 12/26/2004 10:14:03 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Good question... I assumed so.


6,367 posted on 12/26/2004 10:15:45 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; HairOfTheDog

Best we can tell, he's nursing. She does have milk, and he's working at it pretty good. I wasn't concerned about him until he didn't get up when I started handling him. He seems to be o.k. now though.

I have to leave for work in a few minutes, so I just wanted to make sure we didn't have a problem.

Thanks to both of you for the help.


6,368 posted on 12/26/2004 10:17:13 AM PST by Rose of Sharn
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To: Rose of Sharn

The first important milestone is nursing, the second is a bowel movement. They are born with a kind of waxy plug that can sometimes be difficult to pass, and sometimes they need some help. Has he had bowel movement?

I bet he's just really tired, if this is the first time he's gone down. Are you going to have a vet out to check them both?


6,369 posted on 12/26/2004 10:20:03 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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Yes, he's had a bowel movement. He's up running and playing now, so I guess he's alright. I suppose we just got in some good imprinting time. I moved him around, checked for broken bones, and rolled him over without any kind of a fight. After I stood him up, he stood there with me as long as I held on to him. That's the most contact we've had so far.


6,370 posted on 12/26/2004 10:23:27 AM PST by Rose of Sharn
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To: Rose of Sharn

OK - just let him rest then.... after a few days you'll see that they play hard and then sleep hard, and you'll see him down often, it won't scare you any more.


6,371 posted on 12/26/2004 10:26:39 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Amazing. We could be talking about a human baby. They get water first and you watch really close to make sure they nurse ok. You watch for the first stool too:') They also are supposed to sleep a lot but I know from experience that they never sleep at the same time.
6,372 posted on 12/26/2004 10:27:05 AM PST by CindyDawg (364 days until Christmas!)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Rose of Sharn

I was going to say your post was good too. Foals do spend more time laying down then not, especially the first couple of weeks. They'll get up and run around for short periods then nap:)

Are his legs straight? No bucking out at the knees, or flexing back, weak pasterns?

Those are the first things to check. Most crooked legs can be fixed if they are dealt with from the start. He's probably fine, don't mean to scare you or have you looking for problems:). But crooked legs can be a common problem because they have been so cramped up in mom.

Most of the babies we've had would let you walk up and mess with them when they were laying down. That's good, and a good time to rub him all over, mess with his ears, mouth, legs, hoofs. Get's them use to being touched. Heck, I've practically laid down on top of them:)

Becky


6,373 posted on 12/26/2004 10:27:17 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: CindyDawg

It doesn't surprise me that all babies have about the same needs. :~D


6,374 posted on 12/26/2004 10:28:57 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; CindyDawg

Horses and humans body functions are very similar:)

Becky


6,375 posted on 12/26/2004 10:30:27 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Rose of Sharn

What are you feeding momma? Have you got a good mare and foal feed?


6,376 posted on 12/26/2004 10:30:40 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Rose of Sharn; CindyDawg

LOL...we sound like a bunch of ole grandma's:)

Becky


6,377 posted on 12/26/2004 10:32:41 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: HairOfTheDog

Don't know why but it just surprised me that you would watch for the same things in foals. Makes sense though. The docs even check limbs like Becky was talking about esp for broken clavicles or dislocated hips. The first hours are important for bonding (with mom) too.


6,378 posted on 12/26/2004 10:32:56 AM PST by CindyDawg (364 days until Christmas!)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Well, what else should we sound like? Isn't that what everyone does with new moms? Flood them with all kinds of information and advice?
:~D


6,379 posted on 12/26/2004 10:34:14 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

LOL.

With foals, it's double the work too. Not only are there alot of physical needs to meet, you want to start "training" too, so as to make that as easy as possible.

Becky


6,380 posted on 12/26/2004 10:36:54 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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