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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread TWO!

Posted on 09/18/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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To: HairOfTheDog
...and other breeds abuse to get less.

Oh, and the "bleeding" of western pleasure horses before a class so that they are basically anemic when they go in .. bla bla bla ..

It's amazing the things people allow themselves to get sucked into in the name of WINNING.

4,741 posted on 12/03/2004 1:00:37 PM PST by proud_2_B_texasgal (amBUSHed!!!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yeah, TWH people break the tail and use a tail brace. Racking horse people can't use the tail brace, but they do ginger the sheath or under the tail. I'd heard of nerve blocking the tail in the QH world. Those poor horses must be miserable in fly season. I'll take my horses natural, thank you very much. This is what a natural walking horse gait ought to look like...

It's not the best picture, and he does break higher than this in front, but it's hard to catch it with a digital camera. This horse is a blue roan double registered stallion that I like to breed to. He's flat shod and has a gait and carriage to die for

4,742 posted on 12/03/2004 1:19:46 PM PST by FrogInABlender
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To: CindyDawg

They're normal. I guess they look so tiny because of the exaggeration of the front, plus the arena dirt is fairly deep.


4,743 posted on 12/03/2004 1:20:56 PM PST by FrogInABlender
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
Oh Gosh, never heard of "bleeding"! That's ridiculous!
4,744 posted on 12/03/2004 1:22:41 PM PST by FrogInABlender
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To: FrogInABlender

How does this get them to step high though? It would seem to me that they would not want to pick up their feet due to the weight.


4,745 posted on 12/03/2004 1:22:46 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

http://www.horseandstable.co.za/articles/wedges.html

excellent explanation.


4,746 posted on 12/03/2004 1:26:34 PM PST by proud_2_B_texasgal (amBUSHed!!!)
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To: FrogInABlender

It is hard to time action shots with digitals. Instant shutters are one of the things I hope are soon coming to digital cameras.

He's really pretty, looks like your roan baby. He looks relatively small unless that is a really big guy.... Aren't TWH usually in the 16HH category? I ask because my friend that is looking for one is not a small guy, and he rides high country trail. He needs a big horse.


4,747 posted on 12/03/2004 1:27:18 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: CindyDawg

It actually gives them much higher action because they over-compensate for the weight.


4,748 posted on 12/03/2004 1:29:51 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I was just reading the link about "soring"? How sad.


4,749 posted on 12/03/2004 1:33:04 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

It's hard to imagine that these people think they like horses. I'll never understand them.


4,750 posted on 12/03/2004 1:38:20 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Now do you want someone that will put tacks in a horses foot pasturing him when he's old / crippled or for them to give him away to a good home? :')


4,751 posted on 12/03/2004 1:41:13 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: FrogInABlender

Horse can be taught to stand, walk,rum and lift their feet for cleaning etc. Can they not just be taught to high step?


4,752 posted on 12/03/2004 1:45:20 PM PST by CindyDawg
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hmm run yes. I don't know about the rum though:')


4,753 posted on 12/03/2004 1:46:38 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: HairOfTheDog

I guess the average TWH is about 15.2, which is about what this horse is. The guy is just pretty tall. He's probably 6'3". He trains all my young horses for me. He's a super nice guy and very good at what he does. He's not mean to them either, just very firm. He breaks them to a wagon first, along side another horse, then he breaks them to ride, up and down hills that'd make a billygoat groan. When you get them back, they are pretty well bomb proof and they'll go wherever you point 'em. And he does all this while working a regular job at the Saturn plant. When he's not working or sleeping, he's on a horse.


4,754 posted on 12/03/2004 1:57:54 PM PST by FrogInABlender
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To: HairOfTheDog

Me either!


4,755 posted on 12/03/2004 1:58:37 PM PST by FrogInABlender
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To: CindyDawg

They don't give a rip what happens to them, they'd sell them for a few hundred bucks to slaughter.

I appreciate that you want old horses to have good homes. That is what I want. Don't you know that? You seem to think retirement means throw them out to pasture and ignore them till they die, and that is what I want for this horse. What I am saying is they are going to be awfully lucky to find someone willing to take that horse who will actually take on the expensive proposition of maintaining their teeth, feed, medicines, shelter, and keeping them comfortable for a horse that will soon need to be put down. They'll be lucky if they find someone who is prepared to spend a lot of money and energy on a free pet that shouldn't be ridden.

How many people would go down to the pound and choose the 16 year old arthritic blind poodle instead of the young pup who also needs a good home? Your're going to love them both the same, but one is going to break your heart sooner. Someone abandoned that 16 year old blind poodle to the charity of others, and I wouldn't commend them for it.


4,756 posted on 12/03/2004 1:59:02 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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Yeah I know. Realistically they will die. I guess I'm just weird. Each time I get a dog at the pound I take the one closest to being killed that probably isn't going to get adopted. I figured the cute puppies at least had a chance. Sometimes I take a spare. Not for me but to heal up and find it a good home. Poor Cindy was shaking and hiding and wouldn't even come to me.

Anyway, I hope I didn't offend you. It was just a lame attempt at humor that these people would probably be doing their horses a favor by giving them away. If you treated an animal like this when healthy or you going to talk to them and stroke them and give them lots of love and attention when they are worthless to you? I doubt it. Oh well, I'll get off my soap box now.

4,757 posted on 12/03/2004 2:11:31 PM PST by CindyDawg
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I am like you in wanting to take the hard case because someone else will take the easy one.... I would choose the hardest case too. I am glad there are others like me. It gives me hope for that horse, and for the poor old soul ecrubh and I looked when we were shopping for him.

Good hearted people might take that horse. They also might get overwhelmed when that free horse turned out to be old and sick and costing a lot of money to keep. Or they might just be taking something because it's free.

You seem to trust people and I don't.... You wanted to lift all the 'red tape' protecting Mustang adoptions so people could just take them home without all these inspections for good fencing and intentions. Well, the truth is, without good fencing those horses run fences and hurt themselves, they aren't tame. And without enquiring about intentions, the horses get adopted and re-sold for slaughter by people who can make a few hundred bucks doing that.


4,758 posted on 12/03/2004 2:52:08 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I really don't have a lot of trust in people either because I have been let down so many times in my life. I do trust God and myself though and I can only be responsible for so much. This was a hard lesson for me to learn. I used to take on the responsibility for all the what ifs and things that happened that I didn't have control over until it started affecting my health.If I find an animal a home and I find out later it wasn't what I thought, it would make me sad but some chance is better than no chance I guess. Just my philosophy:') It actually happened one time. I gave one of those grown pit bulls to someone and went to check on him and untied him and brought him back and found him another home.

As for the Mustangs... It's not a trust issue really. It's more accountability and the government believing we sheep can't get things done without them. People don't need a government nanny. IMO all these restrictions do is reduce adoptions assuring slaughter (no chances for the horses). Recommendations with reasons great but they should give people a little credit for making things work. Maybe someone has a 50 ft corral instead of 40. Reading all of this red tape sure discouraged me from thinking about it. Yeah, a horse might get hurt or injured but where were they headed anyway. Some making it better than none IMO.

4,759 posted on 12/03/2004 3:25:03 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: HairOfTheDog

How did my posts get so down anyway? :') I went into overtime today at one and got sent home. I'm sitting here with Christmas music playing, my grandson here at my desk writing and Cindy sleeping at my feet. Life is good:')


4,760 posted on 12/03/2004 3:32:06 PM PST by CindyDawg
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