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Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold
? e-mailed from STRATCOM (Offutt Air Force Base) | 9-1-04 | Barbara Stock

Posted on 09/13/2004 5:13:53 PM PDT by Linda Sandoval

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To: evad
Here is the kind of “liar” that Kerry is:

Kerry titles his book "Tour of Duty" for his service in Vietnam. He also claims that he had TWO tours of duty in Vietnam (because of his time on the USS Gridley).

John Kerry was in Vietnam (for 4 months) and yes he was on the deep-water coast of Vietnam on the USS Gridley (for a few weeks), but he did not serve a tour in Vietnam.

A Tour in the Nam was 12 months, one year, 365 days, one trip around the sun. Guys would count down the days until their time was up. It was a big deal. When you only had a few weeks to go until your 12 months was up, you were "SHORT", going home soon. When you broke 100 days you were a “Double Digit”. A “Single Digit” Vet (less than 10 days to go) could be found in his hooch packing.

This issue is important for this reason. John Kerry knows that he didn't serve a Tour, let alone TWO Tours, in Vietnam yet he brazenly reports that he did.

One might argue 'Well, the time that Kerry spent in Nam was HIS tour, so what is the big deal"?

If that is your argument then Kerry should have named his book "My Time in Nam" or something. Not give the impression that he spent a tour in Nam. AND, there is NO excuse for his claim for TWO TOURS in Nam. It is John Kerry spinning the truth to make himself something that he is not.

As far as Unfit for Command is concerned, I have read it. The Swifties could care less if John Kerry got medals, their issue is the same as what I explained above (and the fact that Kerry smeared their good name with his lies) and that is that Kerry diverts from the truth to make himself into something that he is not so much, that he cannot be trusted.

Kerry embellished his After Action Reports to get medals that he didn’t deserve. He fabricated accusations when he came back from Vietnam when he spoke before the Senate Intelligence Committee when he said that his fellow Vietnam Veterans committed atrocities. He has never provided any proof that his accusations were true, and in fact now admits that his accusations were “over the top”. Over the top? They were untrue! And his falsifications harmed POW’s, their families, and Vietnam Veterans in general.

POW’s who were in North Vietnam prison camps when Kerry was telling his fabricated stories to the Senate and the American public to bolster his political ambitions were tortured and threatened to be placed on trial as “War Criminals”. POW’s were told by their captors “You will never go home” because of Kerry’s fabrications. Kerry’s untrue accusations are unforgivable.

General Vo Nguyen Gaip , the Commanding officer of the North Vietnamese Military and Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975 both claim that North Vietnam was poised to negotiate a surrender because of the Communist’s military failures during the 1968 Tet Offensive and thereafter. But because of the Anti-War movement in America (led by Jane Fonda and John Kerry) they felt that the Demonstrations “gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."

America was kicking the Communist’s butt in every battle. General Westmoreland had the Communist’s number and was winning the war. America’s pullout of Vietnam was due to Kerry and his group of Demonstrators. Kerry’s ant-war activities played a very significant part in causing America to lose the war in Vietnam.

Because of John Kerry and others like him there are more names on the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D. C. than there otherwise would have been. There was also the slaughter of 3.5 million South Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians when America pulled out that is significantly attributable to John Kerry and his now admittedly “over the top” accusations. John Kerry has blood dripping from his untrue accusations.

Vietnam Vet

Mekong Delta 1970 - 1971

41 posted on 09/13/2004 6:14:14 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: Grenada

When I was a child, I lived down the street from a vet who had come back from the Vietnam war a parapegic. My siblings and I used to love to visit him, because he had great stories to tell and was eager to give attention to kids (he was probably lonely, but we loved him and I think he loved having us come by).

Some of those stories make me physically ill to this day. The "peace" movement treated our brave soldiers like crap. And now they want to rewrite history yet again and pretend like they love and support the military, they just don't support them doing their job. Give me a break. I would have a lot mroe respect for them if they just admitted --"we were wrong" I can understand why someone could have honestly had reservations about the war at the time. But now, in the light of history it is so obvious that fighting totalitarianism was noble that I don't know how it can be denied by anyone. Even Clinton has admitted that he was wrong about the war. But the lunatic rank and file Democrats will never get it. And many Veterans will NEVER forgive or forget, rightly so I may say. I bet Kerry will be lucky to get 30% of the veteran vote--just the ones that are hard core, die hard DemoRats.


42 posted on 09/13/2004 6:14:40 PM PDT by overwhelmedbylife
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To: counterpunch
Nah, we were nice.

Chieftain, (who is really a retired Gunny), is a Vietnam vet, and wrote the great after action report from the freep.

It wasn't specifically anti Kerry, but pro vets. OK. I did hold up the Vets Against Kerry sign, ... but it was the only one!
43 posted on 09/13/2004 6:15:37 PM PDT by opbuzz
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To: evad
KERRY’S VIETNAM VETERANS AGAINST THE WAR WERE IN DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE NORTH VIETNAMESE AND VIET CONG COMMUNISTS BY TELEPHONE COORDINATING ANTI-WAR ACTIVITIES IN AMERICA

Kerry and his ilk were in direct communications with the Communists and coordinating anti-war activities in America. Go here FBI FILES and check out pages 21 through 25 for proof.

Kerry betrayed America, he betrayed his fellow Vietnam Veterans, and he betrayed our POW’s and their families.

KERRY also went to Paris and met with the Communist North Vietnamese and the Communist Viet Cong representatives to discuss how America should surrender. KERRY then came back to America and went on TV to spew the Communist’s propaganda. KERRY IS A TRAITOR TO AMERICA.

44 posted on 09/13/2004 6:17:22 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Sorry, click here for link to the FBI files mentions above FBI FILES
45 posted on 09/13/2004 6:20:48 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: Linda Sandoval

Thanks so much for this beautiful letter. My brother enlisted in the Marines at the age of 18 - the day he graduated - he was in Viet Nam for 3 years - he is now in his early 50's and to this day will not talk about returning home - I am going to make sure he sees your letter so he will know it is alright to finally come out of the dark. Thank You Veterans and God Bless


46 posted on 09/13/2004 6:23:54 PM PDT by finallyatexan
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To: finallyatexan
Since the John Kerry and the MSM have managed to make this election a referendum on America's feelings about the Vietnam War, your brother (and ALL Vietnam Vets) should as well.

I am convinced that on 2 NOV 2004, they will hear a resounding message from America: THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU AND WELCOME HOME!

47 posted on 09/13/2004 6:31:21 PM PDT by Freedom_Isn't_Free
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To: Linda Sandoval

Thank you for posting this. It was the first time I had seen it. (I'm a newbie.) I was too young to be involved in anything to do with Vietnam, but I do remember my Parent's strong support of the veterans and of Nixon.


48 posted on 09/13/2004 6:31:51 PM PDT by xenawp (proud member of the rightwing conspiracy)
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To: Freedom_Isn't_Free
...but I would've never seen them otherwise.

Yeah, me neither........Guess when I came home from werk, I should'a thought to search on "Revenge Is A Dish Best Served Cold"........because that would be the freekin' obvious thing to do!....then I would've found it.

FMCDH(BITS)

49 posted on 09/13/2004 6:33:05 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: Linda Sandoval; maica; Travis McGee
Kerry did the unspeakable. He had publicly turned on his fellow vets while they were still in harm's way

I feel the same way today about the 'Rat leadership and the leftist MSM. Without their constant bashing of President Bush, I truly believe that the Iraq situation would be virtually resolved by now. Their anti-American Bush-is-stupid; Bush-is-wrong talk gives aid and comfort to the enemy.

50 posted on 09/13/2004 6:43:48 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: TomServo
3rd posting..

Push your glasses up with your index finger and lighten up. You sound like an old librarian.

51 posted on 09/13/2004 6:55:12 PM PDT by canalabamian (Common sense, unfortunately, is not very common)
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To: Linda Sandoval

Disregard the moderator wannabees


52 posted on 09/13/2004 6:56:05 PM PDT by canalabamian (Common sense, unfortunately, is not very common)
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To: El Gato

-119K's.....18th SOS/1st SOW.


53 posted on 09/13/2004 7:10:32 PM PDT by Bombardier (SAC: Kind of "The Family Business" for some of us....)
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To: Thebaddog

Is it true that there is a museum in Hanoi with a picture of Kerry in it?


Yes that is true. I seen it here not long ago. "Try Hanoi museum"


54 posted on 09/13/2004 7:36:27 PM PDT by Linda Sandoval (Hockeymom for Bush)
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To: Linda Sandoval; Peach; Gibtx; nothingnew; Indie; tet68; evad; counterpunch; Viet-Boat-Rider; ...

My heart goes out to all what the vets went through - made even worse by treatment heaped our POW's because of sKerry's Band of Rogues.

I served aboard a carrier on-station off Laos 60-61 where events were leading up to the Viet-nam war.

John's father is Richard Kerry whose career orbited around the likes of Alger Hiss, lefist Supreme Ct. Felix Frankfurther and others sympathetic to the communist movement. John's sister works for the UN. Figures.

Here is another dose of revenge for all of us to serve cold:

I've posted previously encouraging all in here to consider signing a petition with 155,000 signers to date. Go to PatriotPetitions.com (highly regarded The Federalist website).

The pettion has well-backgrounded history to justify, as titled:

Kerry should be Prosecuted, Denied Qualification for National Office [Resign Senate seat ]

It is being sent to Senate President Richard Cheney, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and Attorney General John Ashcroft. Results are forwarded to the addressees, organizations, and the media.

The least could happen it would add more fuel to LANDSLIDE 2004: The Final Chapter. The most after Bush is reelected? Anything is possible.

Pass on to your like-minded friends and encourage them to do likewise.

This is the same John Kerry that would reach out to countries like France. The country resisting our attempts to enforce violations of UN resolutions by Iraq. The country looking the other way while French arms dealers provided weaponry to terrorists BEFORE and AFTER the start of the Iraq war – no doubt used in killing or maiming our troops. The country providing passports to facilitate the movement of select terrorists. The country believed involved in the brewing Oil for Food scandal.

The “sensitive” war John Kerry would carry out would be against the likes of some of the cabal of ofal – namely Muslim terrorists of the Wahhabi sect of Islam committing monstrous acts against innocent children in Beslan, Russia.


55 posted on 09/13/2004 7:57:14 PM PDT by AWestCoaster (FACTS are stubborn things. Your entitled to your own opinion, but not entitled to your own facts.)
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To: AWestCoaster

Kerry should be prosecuted. It is only with the held of a complicit media that he's even been elected Senator.


56 posted on 09/13/2004 8:46:53 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
So true Viet..
I have always maintained that the veteran reaction to Kerry was more about basic justice than revenge.

JF'nKerry, in his own characteristic blundering way, has brought that to the forefront and I hope the vets and POWs finally get the justice they have sooooo long deserved.
dave

57 posted on 09/14/2004 4:54:12 AM PDT by evad
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To: Linda Sandoval

The picture was from some 93 visit. I'm looking for a smoking gun shot from Photoshop with Kerry Ho Chi Minh doing the Macarena.


58 posted on 09/14/2004 6:44:21 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dogs for Bush!)
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