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Disregard McPeak!!! (McPeak Info)

Posted on 09/01/2004 2:50:04 PM PDT by ernliz

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To: ernliz
Almost everyone despised him for his irrational changes to the structure of SAC, and the Air Force is still continuing to undo his marks on the Command.

I worked for AT&T in the late 90's and C. Michael Armstrong did the same thing to them. Look at what Ma Bell has been reduced to because John Walters was considered too stupid to run the biggest Company in the world.

This General has not received a positive comment from any one connected with the USAF.

PS: John hope you are enjoying your 25 million dollar buyout!

21 posted on 09/01/2004 3:07:06 PM PDT by rocksblues (Ah! The smell of toast on a November morning.)
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To: ernliz

McPeak? Another Clinton appointed?


22 posted on 09/01/2004 3:07:29 PM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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To: kpp_kpp

Hi kpp...
See my post #19. I heard many callers (the majority being older, retired gentlemen; some of whom claimed to be quite high rank), saying exactly the same thing over and over.
McSqueak's reputation is pretty well besmirched in my opinion by those fellows. They sounded sane, literate, well-educated and quite sincere.


23 posted on 09/01/2004 3:08:02 PM PDT by LakeLady (Yes, Virginia, there really is a man of courage and honor. His name is Ron Silver.)
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To: ernliz

Someone yesterday said McPeak was angry because he didn't get a promotion. He's like those fools, Clarke and Wilson. And Wesley Clarke. Another crackpot. How can McPeak say he's for Kerry because Kerry would be strong on defense? Out of his ever loving mind.


24 posted on 09/01/2004 3:08:49 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Shermy

John, the communists are sapping the precious
bodily fluids of everyone in the country
through the fluoridation of water.

25 posted on 09/01/2004 3:09:32 PM PDT by glock rocks (It's stuned, stuned in my memory.)
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To: ernliz

I should have read further and gone to the keyword.


26 posted on 09/01/2004 3:12:17 PM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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McPeak? Another Clinton appointed?

He's not kissing Kerry's butt for his health. He certainly wants a job in a Kerry administration.

27 posted on 09/01/2004 3:21:21 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers

You kiss the butt of winners not losers....

So this is why McPeak is infamous!


28 posted on 09/01/2004 3:26:06 PM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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To: ernliz
He had been labelled a terrorism expert by KGW news(Portland,or)so we got to see him nightly since Afghanistan. The impression I had of him was that he felt he belonged in the White House making the decisions and since Bush did not even ask for his advice that was proof enough for him that Bush was terrible. I just chalked it up as another retired general that can not believe he has been replaced. And no one came and begged him to come back and straighten everything up.
29 posted on 09/02/2004 12:23:26 AM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: ernliz
Welcome to FR. Nice to see a newbie who obviously isn't a troll.

(I hope you know what I mean by that.)

30 posted on 09/02/2004 12:35:12 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: ernliz
Oh, by the way....at first, I thought you meant HOLLY McPeak. No way I'm disregarding HER.


31 posted on 09/02/2004 12:42:53 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: An Old NCO
Tony McPeak's lasting contribution, IMO, to the Air Force was making all of us get V-neck tee shirts (/sarcasm). I had heard that his wife did not like crew neck tee shirts. Forcing people out with the reduction in force and he's worried about tee-shirts. Man was a maroon. I had forgotten about the name tag crap.

His judgment is suspect. What is the Air Force Chief of Staff, with all the information in his head, doing flying Combat Air Patrol the first night of Desert Storm? I don't doubt McPeak's courage--but his ego evidently gets in the way of his judgment.
32 posted on 09/17/2004 5:21:28 PM PDT by Cranky (Hey kid! Get off my lawn!)
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"..As a former SAC staffer, I am greatly indebted to tac73 and his many fellow troops of the 3906SSS for their obscure labors in keeping us all informed and safe, but I have to call him on a point of accuracy.

Gen McPeak was a pure fighter pilot his whole career, and a fighter mafia general. He was never a SAC troop; the Elite Guards at Bldg 500 did not memorize his mug until he stumbled into the CSAF job when then-SecDef Dick Cheney canned Gen Mike Duggan on the eve of DESERT STORM.

He deserves precisely zero credit for the DS air campaign: didn't think it up, didn't plan it, didn't direct it, didn't execute it.

During his CSAF tenure, he did nothing except destroy what little organizational cohesion and esprit de corps the Service still possessed. Oh, and he introduced a new uniform.

Hypocrisy personified, he allowed fighter pilots to violate all the rules while holding the rest of the force to impossible, ever-shifting, and sometimes unscrupulously concealed standards. As Maj Owen's comments attest, his behavior (and that of cohort Gen George Lee Butler, infamous for anti-nuke stances) can best be characterized as less than honorable.

If USAF has enjoyed any success since, it most certainly has nothing to do with the changes he wrought. His rise to high rank is not a compliment to the professionalism, competence, and devotion to duty of those who permitted it. The Service may not survive him much longer, and if it does not repudiate him and his ilk, it may not deserve to.

obscure crew dog
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Posted by: sddso on August 22, 2004 10:32 PM .."

McPeak on General Tommy Franks

".."Not overwhelmingly impressive" is still the assessment of retired Gen. Merrill McPeak, the top Air Force general during the Gulf War. "He sometimes seems to want to come across as one of these aw-shucks, sneaky-smart kind of guys. It's impossible to judge whether he's really sneaky-smart, or sneaky-average."

But the sniping at Franks largely subsided as the Taliban were routed from Afghanistan, and Bush and Rumsfeld made clear their support for the general..."

Gulf War Friendly Fire Incident

"..On April 14, 1994, two F-15 fighters shot down the Black Hawks in the mistaken belief that they were Iraqi (though no Iraqi choppers had ever overflown this area). Documents suggest a bungled Air Force investigation. Only Capt. James Wang, commanding an AWACS (radar) plane 300 miles away, was brought to a court-martial - which acquitted him.

Was this outcome manipulated by an Air Force then dominated by fighter pilots typified by Gen. Merrill McPeak as chief of staff? Frank Spinner, Wang's civilian counsel, told the court-martial McPeak made clear he wanted no fighter pilots punished..."

33 posted on 10/16/2004 11:37:48 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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