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To: Boundless

Timeline is here http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Service_Record.pdf
Switched to Reserve in Jan 1970, Standby Reserve July 1972, discharged for US Naval Reserve Feb 1973.etc. I don't know the implications of the various categories. I do notice single redacted items on many docs, don't know what that means.

I don't know if there's anything else out there or not but if someone is going to make claims of courts martial and the like they need to show credible source(s) or else we'll all get labelled as wackos.


12 posted on 08/21/2004 6:48:07 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

> I don't know if there's anything else out there or not
> but if someone is going to make claims of courts martial
> and the like they need to show credible source(s) or
> else we'll all get labelled as wackos.

Well, I'm not asking for court martial, but I am asking
what Kerry's military status was while he was involved
in activities that are probably court-martial offenses.

> Timeline is here http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Service_Record.pdf

1970-01-03 Release from ACDU/Trf to Naval Reserve
1972-07-01 Trf to Standby Reserve - Inactive
1978-02-16 Discharged for U.S.Naval Reserve

"Release" is not "Discharge"
"Trf" (Transfer) is not "Discharge"
"Inactive" is not "Discharged"

He wants us to think he wasn't in the military
during 1970-1972, but unless there's another
"Discharge" somewhere, he was.

And if there was another discharge, let's see it.


13 posted on 08/21/2004 7:01:34 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: 1066AD
I do notice single redacted items on many docs, don't know what that means.

Probably his service number, which would (I think) have been his social secruity number.

There isn't alot of difference between being an inactive status reservist and a standby reservist. In Kerry's case he would have been subject to recall until '72, when his military service obligation (6 years) would have expired. That likely triggered the change to standby status. They don't like you to be on standby status for too long, although I'm not sure of the statutory or regulations for that. I know when I'd been inactive for about 4 years, they asked me to resign my commission. Instead I found an active reserve assignement. (A cat B assignment, meaning I only had to do the equivalent of 6 weekends of inactive duty training, although I usually did 7 or 8, the excess for points only, no pay. Cat B also did a slighty shorter annual 12-14 day active duty "tour", depending on travel requirements. Unit Reservists, did 12 weekends (or equivilant, more for pilots) and 14-16 days active duty.

Inactive and standby status is sort a "sleeper" status, with no training requirements, no inactive duty training, and no annual tours. Standby reservists are not subject to involuntary recall, IIRC. Neither Standby nor Inactive status reservists are subject to the UCMJ. Active status reservists (as oppossed to reservists on extended active duty, which is what most junior officers are) are not subject to the UCMJ except when on active duty or doing inactive duty training. The exception being "failure to go" should they receive activation orders, but then again it's not really an exception, since on the effective date of the orders, they *are* on active duty. Some inactive resrvists have recently been involuntarily recalled to active duty for the war on the Jihadies.

17 posted on 08/22/2004 12:12:40 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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