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I sense an invisible /sarcasm tag lurking in your reply...

;-)

Seriously, why do "Star Trek" threads always bring in all the "Star Trek [insert series] Sucks" folks? Do you watch Enterprise? If so, why, if it is not to your liking? If not, how do you know the show sucks?

I'm not fond of "Andromeda", but I don't drop in on Andromeda threads to complain.

I'm not the posting police, and you can obviously express whatever sentiment you wish. I just don't understand the motivation.

Sorry if I ticked you off. I'd rather shatter Kerry's campaign in November than get into flame wars over Star Trek.

Hey friend,

First of all, 'peace.' I am a wisecracker in life, so yes there was a sardonic thread in my last reply! Please don't take it personally. :-)

In any event, I am a longtime trek fan. I was born in '68 and discovered the program in my youth in syndication on Ch. 11 in NYC. I had the pleasure of attending many of the conventions as a youngster with my dad in nyc, from around 1975-76 through the early 80s, along with comic cons.

For me the fandom was best at around that time - all we had was the TOS in syndication, some books and magazines, and a dedicated fan base. The arrival of Trek: The Motion Picture in 1979 was incredible - I remembver vividly the excitement that year as the movie was released. Though widely considered a clunker, it remains one of my fave Trek films.

I have a strong bias for TOS, but even then, Season 1 and 2 were good, but Season 3 was pretty rough.

As fandom grew, and TNG got off the ground, I was excited to see it. I tuned in a bit - it wasn't Star Trek, to me anyway. The two-fisted style was gone. The stories seemed to me to be obvious retreads of TOS stories or themes. The cast was too big and most were a bore. I lost interest, but would tune in on occasion.

Same with the later Trek TV projects. DS9 never clicked with me, Voyager was ok and had the benefit of a stronger captain, but neither sustained my interest.

I continued to support the Trek films: I like Trek 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8. The last 2 Trek movies were unwatchable, in my book, down to dune buggies in space in one of the strangest scenes in SF movies ever.

Enterprise had some promise, but I questioned at the time how they could pull it off? The tech would have to have a 'retro' feel, vis a vis TOS. It didn't. Within the first few minutes of the pilot, we saw a modern era Klingon. I threw up my hands - they blew it, they lost me before the 2 hour pilot movie was over. Be it their angst ridden and indecisive captain, the 'UN' style of the crew, looking to shoehorn many races in, or the rip off of TOS stories and themes, the show just wasn't 'Trek' to me.

So I am probably a different breed of the modern Trek-basher - a provincial and protective fan of TOS, where Kirk & crew used their wits and their fists as need be. Kirt wasn't paralyzed bty indecision, and starfleet women showed off their pretty legs in those miniskirts. Modern day catsuits aside, I go with TOS.

So maybe that explains where I am coming from, and might give you some perspective on my mindset. In any event, I am a fan, just an oldschool and critical one.

So peace - live long and prosper. I'll go enjoy and ep or 2 of TOS on my DVD collection - yes, they saw me coming a mile away! New $ 100 boxed sets are coming out, but I bought them 2 vols at a time at $10-15 a pop. My Trek pedigigree! ;-)