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Are Democrats really united?

Posted on 07/25/2004 5:45:07 AM PDT by American100

I keep reading and hearing in the news that the DOmcratic Party has never been as united as they are now. Terry McAulliffe has been all over the TV this weekend saying how great the democratic's current position is. Someone on CNN compared John Kerry to Ronald Reagan in 1980.

So are the democrats really that united?


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1 posted on 07/25/2004 5:45:07 AM PDT by American100
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I think they're united but that unity is starting to dissolve. The values the democrats are touting is proving to be anything but common to America. The whole "Bush lied" rant is falling apart as the accusers are proving to be the true liars.

I won't say that it will be a landslide win for Bush but I do think Bush will win by 10% or more.


2 posted on 07/25/2004 5:53:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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I'd say there is some infighting among the fascists, communists and socialists, but they're united in their goal to give us Big Brother marxism. If that's established then out come the long knives to kill each other.


3 posted on 07/25/2004 5:54:02 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: American100

I'm sure he means the RATs are united in a common cause to defeat Bush but they're still the same disfunction bunch of misfits they always have been.


4 posted on 07/25/2004 5:56:20 AM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: American100
You believe Scary Terry? Well, let me get the deed to this out of my pocket, FRiend....


5 posted on 07/25/2004 5:59:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Be a Dollar a Day FReeper, and SMILE when you get your Mastercard bill!)
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To: American100

I believe the Democrats are divided into camps. The farther left wing is currently running things and the DLC is taking a back seat. When Kerry loses, the DLC will then attempt to retake control, citing Clinton as their proof of success and the loss of Kerry, Edwards, Dean and others as proof of not being able to win. Those more conservative Democrats, including many who voted for Reagan and may now vote for Bush, really feel alienated by a party they realize is too far to the left. Zell Miller's book reflects that wing of their party.


6 posted on 07/25/2004 6:00:18 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: American100; cripplecreek
Divided Democrats may cost Kerry Michigan

...Political analysts agree he must win the state to have any chance of capturing the White House. The most recent Michigan polls show Kerry locked in a virtual tie with President Bush.....

7 posted on 07/25/2004 6:02:37 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: cripplecreek

Speaking of lies. On MSNBC this morning I saw Kerry addressing a rally. He was speaking about Vietnam, "which had lost the support of the American people. Many people lied to us." Then for some reason the tape froze as if right on que. I almost spewed my coffee all over the place laughing so hard.

That's right, Kerry, and the biggest liar of all was some little punk telling a congressional hearing that people like me were committing war crimes by, among other things, cutting off the heads of Viet Cong dead.

Note to Kerry: drop the veteran references. They are a loser for you.


8 posted on 07/25/2004 6:03:35 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: evad
It's the same pseudo "Solidarity" the democrats and their
socialist ilk alway put forth all the while feeding the press dribs and drabs of leaks about republican "splits",
"Chasms",and "disaffections".

When long time democrats like Miller and others come out and support a Republican, you KNOW there are problems in the rat party.

The leftists in their drive for power have refused to pay
attention to the things that brought Algore down, witness
the spectacle of the anti-gun Mccarthy addressing the Boston
convention. With half a brain they would have kept their mouths shut about the gun issue but NOOOOOOOO. They have to
energize the left wing because it is all that is driving the party nowadays.
9 posted on 07/25/2004 6:06:58 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: evad

We are seeing panic stricken people grabbing at straws that is the only unity on their front...


10 posted on 07/25/2004 6:07:34 AM PDT by antivenom ("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
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To: American100

The hardcore left is united against Bush. But that isn't the group that counts. It's the fence sitters. You never win an election by simply hating the other candidate. This convention is going to be about trying to sell Kerry to the American people. If his poll numbers don't exceed Bush by 10 percent after the convention he is toast. Right now the polls have Bush ahead and since we are a day away from the Dem convention the Democrats ought to be sweating bullets.


11 posted on 07/25/2004 6:07:49 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: American100
So are the democrats really that united?

I'm afraid so.

12 posted on 07/25/2004 6:09:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: American100

Two things unite the dems: hatred of Bush and resentment of "the rich." I passed by a 'rat campaign worker on the street yesterday (Eastern Market in DC) and it was as so many others have reported. He was accosting passersby with a snarl and "Ya wanna help beat Bush?" Not a single good word about Kerry. That's what they're reduced to.


13 posted on 07/25/2004 6:13:22 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: tet68
..energize the left wing because it is all that is driving the party nowadays.

Yup..
hopefully right over a cliff.

The 'extreme left' now defines the RAT party.

14 posted on 07/25/2004 6:24:39 AM PDT by evad (Tax Man and Tort Boy..remolding America in their image)
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To: quantim
I think the analysts are overlooking something here in Michigan. Problems at the caucus night polls haven't been forgotten by African American voters. Those problems were in primarily African American dominated districts and they were controled by the democrats. Blacks in Mi know they didn't pick Kerry, he was picked for them and they don't like it.

Also theres the fact that John Kerry can't pull off the common man ruse.
15 posted on 07/25/2004 6:35:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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I'll add that it really gets down to turnout from rural-suburbs vs. the big cities. There are plenty enough of republicans to carry the state - Reagan/Bush than Bush Sr. had no trouble.

I like the fact that Bush Jr. has been coming here a lot lately. If he takes this state (I'm predicting he does) then WHOA! Redemption! Between Levin, Stabenow, Granholm, Gore and others has left me embarrassed.
16 posted on 07/25/2004 6:46:52 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: American100

How is this gay marriage thing playing out among the black community? That is a question that should be asked. Will it cause many to sit home? I don't think they will go out and vote for Dubya, but they may just sit home.


17 posted on 07/25/2004 6:47:35 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: quantim
Ive noticed some trends among my circle of friends.

A lot of my union friends voted for Gore in 2000 mostly because their union told them too. This time they seem to be almost exclusively behind Bush. Many of my friends have never voted before but are registered now and are also firmly behind bush. Then there are the 18 and 20 year old kids of my friend who are registering to vote (wonderful news) and they seem to be leaning in the conservative direction of their parents.
18 posted on 07/25/2004 6:57:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: cripplecreek

I've only seen two(2) pro Kerry bumper stickers. I've seen a few "Show Bush the Door in 2004" stickers. On the other hand, I see dozens of anti-Hillary stickers from the last election and there are lots of Pro-Bush stickers.


19 posted on 07/25/2004 8:18:28 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: American100

Kerry's high support in the democratic ranks is in the mid 50s to low 60s depending on the poll whereas Bush's is in the high 70s to mid 80s. One thing that has hurt the democrates is the likes of Moore, Whoopie, and Kerry will be staying away from them. There should be a bounce for Kerry high support just like other bounces just epends how high and how long it lasts.


20 posted on 07/26/2004 10:39:46 AM PDT by JBassett (Replies need to be more professional)
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