Have been back and forth on both sides of the issue of whether America is the Biblical prophetic Babylon. . . . beginning with Demitri Dudaman. He was adamant and his prophecies are super sobering including invasion by China and Russia, Mexico etc. and "one European" country.
I've met people who's discernment I trust agree and disagree with Dudaman.
I've known neighbors or at least friends of Dudaman's neighbors who asserted he was authentic and always a 'right on' guy.
You can Google his name for a link. Sorry. Tired tonight.
I believe America is headed for some serious discipline.
I do not believe God's earnest, authentic belivers will experience THE WRATH OF GOD, certainly not wholesale whether taken out or protected.
I do believe we will certainly experience the horrid birth pangs toward The Great Tribulation and toward the wrath of God.
But I don't believe the real wrath of God will arrive until the 3.5 year point in The Great Tribulation.
Just my two cents off the top of my head. Sorry I'm not up to much more tonight.
LUB
After reading a couple of excellent books on the subject, I have come to the conclusion that we will be removed before the wrath of God but we will have to go through some of the tribulation. Now, my conclusion may or not be the right one but my theory is, I want to be ready no matter WHEN it is. I don't want to be one of those who may be completely surprised if there IS no PRE-trib and we are going to have to endure a bit longer.