I can see I need to be more specific. Not-for-profit would be a better term and business model. That doesn't mean that Dr's don't prosper and medical advances are not made. Just that the stock market should not be a part of health care. Insurance companies are publicly traded, for profit, middlemen. HMO's and Blue Cross do not pay doctors what they would like and do not encourage new drugs or procedures. To the contrary, health insurance companies stifle the quality and delivery of health care. They are for profit bureaucracies. Private socialism, if you will. They are a drag on the economy and the "necessity" of health care. They train no doctors nor invent curative drugs. They are a parasite except to their employees and their stock holders.
Now here's the deal, government should not directly put these companies out of business, but these companies should die a natural death because government should encourage other ways that citizens can pay for health care. Medical savings accounts are a good start.
The topic of this thread, originally, was how to expose a liberal/Lefty. I still do not see where in my first reply that I deny the responsibility of government for national defense. That's something that you somehow inferred on your own. You infer a lot of things in your replies that do not make sense to me. You condemn government in one sentence then affirm it in another. You are really not very clear. Sorry.
I didn't think I did that...and went back and looked and still didn't see it. You infer a lot of things in your replies that do not make sense to me. You condemn government in one sentence then affirm it in another. You are really not very clear. Sorry.
To cite my earlier post, the distinction should not be 'big' vs 'small' government, but proper vs improper government. That is how I can logically support large robust defense spending (proper function of government) while denouncing socialist spending like health care.
I find it interesting that you so denounce the free market for health care. Did you buy your car or your computer from non-profits? Or service related...do you eat at non-profit restaurants? Why not? Why do you want your healthcare provided by non-profits? I have nothing against non-profits, they can be a good way of channeling voluntary donations to good causes, but that is hardly an appropriate foundation for one seventh of our economy.