you want I should send you some bobcat pee? gotta get that stuff out and see if it runs off the voles and the chipmunks.
Cats'll run off the voles....probably the chipmunks too.
Corin: re: the bobcat pee, I think you and g'nad discussed this very subject a while back. :-)
also re the Grapevines. Those Ozarkian ones are something else, can be 3-4 inches around (I've measure some at 6" diameter) and they will grow 30-40 feet long, tough stuff.
Glad we didn't have to go through the landfill entrance, there were 25 cars and trucks parked in line waiting to get through the gate, and likely that many inside waiting to be weighed or measured. The Recycling Center had its own entrance.
Off for plants. SYL