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The Guild 4-30-2004 Home Alone

Posted on 04/30/2004 4:50:34 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

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To: Endeavor
It shows all these photos of John Kerry in uniform and of the kind of boat he drove in Vietnam

Do you find it thought provoking that Kerry has so many photos and film of himself in 'Nam? A cynical person would think he thought those might come in handy when running for congress or the senate or maybe even president.

ironic that Kerry had just decided (yeah right) to "take the gloves off" and go after Bush's war record and within a couple of days, pow, there's this ad.

I don't think Kerry had planned to attack GWB's service, it really does make him look petty, but he had no choice since his equivocating on the medal tossing didn't make the controversy go away. He would have preferred to let orgs like MoveOn take the heat while he took 'the high' road. Charlie Gibson's segment nixed that.

61 posted on 05/01/2004 10:30:33 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: daisyscarlett
Before he tracked down his second heiress in 1995, Kerry had a '91 Jetta. In other words, 10 years ago his car was worth less than his bicycle is today.

LOL!! Can't you just see Kerry picking up Teh-RAY-zaaaaaaaaah in his Jetta for a date?
What am I saying? He probably rented a limo and charged it to taxpayers.

62 posted on 05/01/2004 10:44:53 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: Endeavor
Everyone I've met from this thead would be welcomed into our home on a moment's notice...I'll give her a buzz at 5:30 to see what's happening, meeting-wise. Surely they wouldn't be strategizing after 6pm on a Saturday evening, would they?
63 posted on 05/01/2004 10:51:32 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty
How about an hour show on all the good things happening in Iraq?

At our Ohio/WV gettogether Thursday, OhioWFan shared about her son, who just returned after some 14 months in Iraq. He said the Iraqi people were appreciative, grateful, loving and welcoming toward the U.S. and coalition forces ... all the things the Koppels and Jennings of this world don't want us to know.

64 posted on 05/01/2004 11:59:16 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
The lack of good news about what's 'going on' in Iraq is appalling! I would like to thank algore once again for inventing the internet so we can get the real news.

I really don't see how the American public is supposed to interpret the drumbeat of gloom and doom about Iraq as anything other than anti-war propaganda. Just like what we were fed during the Vietnam War. The only thing that keeps our enemies from winning this time (and only by a sliver) with their propaganda is those brave men and women serving are volunteers. That has certainly put a crimp in their mission. Yet, it doesn't stop them from continuously droning on about keeping our troops 'safe'. How many in the military do you know signed up to be 'safe' while they do the most dangerous work in the world?

I really enjoyed reading about OhioWFan's son and his tour in Iraq and that kind of insight is very helpful for me because my nephew will be going to Iraq in November. He's in the Mojave Desert right now training to learn how to conduct check points with cars and sweep buildings. He's been accepted into driving school and hopes to be trained to drive a Bradley tank. Hal (his nickname) is only 19 and we're all worried about his upcoming tour in Iraq but very proud of him.

Hal signed up in the midst of the liberation of Iraq and he didn't sign up to get a free ride for college, he signed up because he loves his country and his family and wants to protect both.

65 posted on 05/01/2004 12:50:20 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
he didn't sign up to get a free ride for college, he signed up because he loves his country and his family and wants to protect both.

God bless him. OhioWFan's son told his family that, if called back, he'd return to Iraq in a heartbeat, because he knows we're doing the right thing over there. Thank goodness there are at least a few young people like them.

66 posted on 05/01/2004 12:58:13 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: All
BTW, Bill Clinton says the tax cuts have given us rich folk more money than we need, so we should give it for AIDS research and the like, story here.
67 posted on 05/01/2004 1:00:08 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
from his visit to the coal mine in my neighborhood Monday.

Forgot to ask you if you saw the video of Effin' walking through the mine when he bonked his head on an overhead pipe? heh heh heh!

68 posted on 05/01/2004 1:26:51 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: *The GUILD
Check out actor Dennis Weaver's Hydrogen Drive website. Dude may be onto something good for both our economy and our environment.
69 posted on 05/01/2004 1:37:10 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: mountaineer
Shoot, most of the pictures on the GWB party thread aren't working right now, I'll check back later. Here's a good one I could see....

You really have a beautiful smile mountaineer!

70 posted on 05/01/2004 1:43:32 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
From yet another NY Times article on concern among Dems that Kerry was too late starting his ad campaign:
Democrats outside the campaign described the concerns as overstated, and said that any drift that might be taking place now would have little meaning next fall. They said Mr. Kerry had used the spring to raise money and that a war room and offices in Ohio and other battleground states would open shortly. And they noted that independent organizations had picked up a lot of the slack so far with big expenditures on television advertising and get-out-the-vote operations.
Quick, tell me again about how they're NOT coordinating their expenditures!
71 posted on 05/01/2004 2:39:58 PM PDT by Timeout (Weren't none of us recently fell off a turnip truck)
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To: Timeout
Nah, nothing to see there, move on,, ,er uh... oops!

Buffet and Steve Jobs are advising Kerry on economic issues along with, Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, AFL-CIO labor organization President John Sweeney, New Jersey Senator Jon Corzine, a former co-chairman of Goldman, Sachs & Co., and former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, head of Citigroup Inc.'s executive committee.

In the story we get economic wisdom from Buffet:

Buffett, the world's second-richest man, criticized Bush's tax cuts, saying they were ``tilted toward the rich. I've got way more money in my pocket because of the tax change and I don't think it's a good idea.''

Cash burning a hole in yer pocket Buffy? There must be one million and one charities out there, not to mention helping out our troops, but apparently Buffy isn't smart enough to instruct his help to find worthy recipients of his extra cash. And of course we wouldn't want the president's tax cut to look like it's a good thing!

Gawd these people make me want to vomit.

p.s. In 2003 Mr. B made more money than ever before and since the tax cuts for the not so rich are finally in place we actually got some of our money returned this time. Thanks W!

72 posted on 05/01/2004 4:03:45 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: mountaineer
There's something in the water at the State Dept., they've done a most surprizing thing:

First french fries, now Le Monde ? Officially, it's because money's tight, but some Bush administration officials aren't hiding the fact that there is a little payback for anti-American coverage in the State Department's decision not to fund foreign press centers at the Democratic and Republican presidential nominating conventions. "They can come and pay like everyone else!"barked an angry administration official. "It's ridiculous; this is foreign press welfare." Said a British scribe: "I can't believe this is for a little ribbing in the press." What's happening is this: For the first time since Ronald Reagan ran for re-election in 1984, the State Department isn't pampering the foreign press by outfitting high-tech briefing rooms at the political conventions. "This year, money was tight," explained State's Adam Ereli. "You can't do everything you want to." The savings: a whopping $500,000. Instead, they'll have to cover the Boston and New York events like the rest of the press. Payback? Gosh no, says Ereli. "That's crazy," said the diplomat."We're not shutting them out." Link

73 posted on 05/01/2004 5:01:09 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: Timeout; All
There has already been a debate between this year's presidential candidates!

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Neither candidate seems to remember the historic occasion, but a new biography, "John F. Kerry," by three Boston Globe reporters, breaks the story of a debate at Yale over school busing. It was in the fall of 1965, when Mr. Kerry was a senior and Mr. Bush was a sophomore. David Thorne, a classmate of Mr. Kerry's who would later become his brother-in-law, is quoted describing the argument in the locker room near the Yale playing fields: "John had been participating in busing stuff, but George was very conservatively placed and thought it was a crazy idea."

Given the subsequent unpopularity of school busing experiments, this sounds like a potentially useful moment for Mr. Bush, who could point to it as evidence of his superior common sense even during his fraternity days. But there is a complication. In an interview on Friday, Mr. Thorne said he thought it was actually about a different kind of busing.

"I meant the Freedom Rides to Mississippi," Mr. Thorne said, referring to the trips by college students to protest racial segregation, which he recalled being a much bigger issue than school busing in 1965. "To the best of my memory, John was supportive of the rides and Bush was not. He had a conservative attitude that Northerners shouldn't be messing with the South."

In that context, it looks like a useful moment for Mr. Kerry. But one of the book's authors, Michael Kranish, stood by the original interpretation after reviewing a transcript of the interview. "David Thorne used the word `busing' twice in the interview and never mentioned Freedom Rides," Mr. Kranish said. "I don't think an argument about Freedom Rides makes as much sense." Although school busing in late 1965 was not yet the major issue it would become, Mr. Kranish said, it had recently been in the news because of court cases over school segregation and busing in Massachusetts. Link

At least Kerry is consistent at being wrong.

74 posted on 05/01/2004 5:22:06 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty (You're not the boss of me.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
Aw shucks, thank you.
75 posted on 05/01/2004 5:22:10 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
Chris Wallace says Fox News Sunday will be doing something tomorrow to counteract the Koppel thingie Friday night....

Can you imagine, now Kerry is asking Vets if they have had counselling? (see photo caption) He who guards his privacy so much and won't release all of his medical records.

Also. "Sen. John Kerry, a decorated Navy lieutenant who later protested the Vietnam War, urged veterans on May 1, 2004 to 'get out there marching again' for better benefits."

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), D-Mass., center, chats with St. Louis, Mo., area veterans during breakfast in a diner in St. Louis, Saturday, May 1, 2004. Some of the veterans raised their hands when asked by Kerry how many of them had received counseling. (AP Photo/Steven Senne)

76 posted on 05/01/2004 5:32:09 PM PDT by daisyscarlett
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Your pet........courtesy of Dow Corning.
 

Dow Corning built the pool????

77 posted on 05/01/2004 5:41:37 PM PDT by Fintan (© 1950)
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To: daisyscarlett
when asked by Kerry how many of them had received counseling.

I find it interesting that there is some sort of preconceived notion that Vietnam veterans automatically are whacked-out misfits in need of counseling and special services, and that no one is offended that people like Kerry encourage that prejudice.

78 posted on 05/01/2004 5:49:51 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Fintan
Dow Corning built the pool????

No, the floaty things.

79 posted on 05/01/2004 5:51:01 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer; Endeavor; yall
IG was collected from her luxury hotel and brought to our humble abode successfully.

A wonderfull time was had by all...at least on our end.
80 posted on 05/01/2004 7:08:45 PM PDT by lodwick
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