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April 4, 2004
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Posted on 04/04/2004 2:59:39 PM PDT by Long Cut
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To: ecurbh
Thanks much for the ping.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:39:58 AM PDT
by
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
To: archy
Clever!
Yeah, I could see one of the "kleine diebische Bergvolk" as a Holmes type. Bavarians are pretty neat people. I think of them as good-old-boys in Lederhosen and we get along just fine. They haven't discovered the wonders of the pickup truck yet, but they do have a proper appreciation for good hunting dogs and good beer! (and I must say your average Bayerischer Kerl has a better taste in beer than your average Bud-drinking good old boy!)
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:45:11 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: archy
Any novel dealing with modern politics has to take into account the impact of the blogosphere. FR is the keystone blog of them all.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:46:34 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: AnAmericanMother
They haven't discovered the wonders of the pickup truck yet, but they do have a proper appreciation for good hunting dogs and good beer! There were plenty of farmers with the flatbed equivalent and the Volkswagen van with an open rear, sort of an analogue to the Japanese Toyota and Datsun mini-pickups. And there are more than a few surplussed-off Bundeswehr Unimog 404 trucks and Austrian Pinzgauers running around, even a few old USAF base pickup trucks. They're getting there.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:49:03 AM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: archy; Travis McGee; All
Oh, in my post #220, I forgot to mention...Dr. Watson is Female.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:50:47 AM PDT
by
Long Cut
(Hell of a thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have)
To: archy
That's good! I haven't been there since the late 60s, best you could hope for then was a stake-body diesel or (best of all!) a wagon with rubber tires drawn by two sturdy Haflingers.
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posted on
04/05/2004 8:52:21 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: Long Cut
Oh, in my post #220, I forgot to mention...Dr. Watson is Female. Shades of George C. Scott as Holmes with a female Dr. Watson in They Might Be Giants...1972, IIRC.
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posted on
04/05/2004 9:08:28 AM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: Jeff Head; JulieRNR21; Long Cut; RightWingMama; Euro-American Scum; Trinity_Tx; Tribune7; Quilla; ..
Jeff:
Thanks for the mention in your list. That's good company - and that includes you. Love to hear from others, too. Freeper feedback and comments are not only welcome but invaluable.
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posted on
04/05/2004 9:15:50 AM PDT
by
jim macomber
(Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
To: archy; All
I'm thinking of playing that sort of story straight-up, not as a spoof or a comedy. My concept of a modern Holmes has a few wrinkles, too.
Think of him as a "lad", a bit more "street" than his ancestor. A bit more rough around the edges. Picture him, in fact, played by Vinnie Jones, of the movies Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch.
Going for a straight clone of the old one would be a tad boring, IMHO. He'd have to fit in his new time frame and context. You could keep most of the old eccentricities, though, like the pipe and such, and his laboratory. He'd be just as intelligent and driven, but more comfortable moving about in the modern underworlds.
As for Watson, I am adamant that she NOT be some young knockout. Her role would be best served by a middle-aged, proper lady, one offering a marked contrast to the younger, tougher Holmes. I HATE it when lazy writers set up an obvious romance, and one should not be here. I'd picture her as resembling James Bond's Miss Moneypenny in looks and demeanor, if not in her crush on her friend.
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posted on
04/05/2004 9:21:52 AM PDT
by
Long Cut
(Hell of a thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have)
To: archy; Travis McGee
In reference to the aforementioned Vinnie Jones, I gotta share this: he has one of the best lines in any movie I've ever seen. This is from
Snatch, in which he plays a professional torpedo by the name of "Bullet Tooth Tony", in London...
SCENE: Tony, seated at a table in an otherwise empty pub, has three goons pointing pistols at him and demanding his surrender. He just keeps at his pint and says...
"The fact that you've got "Replica" written down the side of your gun. (draws his own gun) And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle point five O" written on the side of mine, should precipitate your ba**s into shrinking, along with your presence. Now... F**k off!"
It's a classic.
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posted on
04/05/2004 9:32:39 AM PDT
by
Long Cut
(Hell of a thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have)
To: jim macomber; Jeff Head; Long Cut; RightWingMama; Euro-American Scum; Trinity_Tx; Tribune7; ...
After you finish Jim Macomber's "Bargained for Exchange" be sure to read his second book: 'Art and Part'.
Jim has the ability to combine recent news headlines, intrigue, suspense, as well as legal expertise in his novels.
Jim Macomber recognized the danger of secret fanatical terrorist cells before anyone else.......including Richard Clarke!
His exciting books present a point of view Freepers will cheer!
231
posted on
04/05/2004 11:06:24 AM PDT
by
JulieRNR21
(One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
To: Long Cut
Has anyone mentioned the Patrick O'Brian Aubrey/Maturin series? I have just recently purchased number 16 in the series, and I LOVE his books, despite the fact that I have had no edcuation in military or naval history...I just love a good story with good characters and history.
Am still catching up on the thread, so if these books have been mentioned, my apologies.
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posted on
04/05/2004 11:09:14 AM PDT
by
Alkhin
(He thinks I need keeping in order.)
To: JulieRNR21; jim macomber
Sounds like my kind of book. I just ordered it from Amazon. Thanks.
To: JulieRNR21
I've got both novels and intend to read the second as soon as I am done wth the first.
The more good moral/conservative based view points we get out there that are enjoyable to read and also can get people thinking...the better.
That's what I try to do with The Dragon's Fury Series.
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
2 of my favorite reads:
Stephen King's "The Stand" and "Bag of Bones"
However, I will only get his stuff via the library now as I will never buy another book of his...He participated in anti-war marches and is on our boycott list.
To: Long Cut
Most Michael or Jeff Shara books are good...Killer Angels by the dad was excellent.
Harry Turtledove's "Guns of the South" was an excellent alter-history novel, would be a great movie.
Right now I'm just not reading much, actually been reading a camping/survival manual. Too much FOX News...haha
To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Agree about Lawhead's Pendragon books. Amazing.
I can't believe after over 150 posts, no one's mentioned Patrick O'Brian! Truly the master of historical fiction. I'm on the 12th book in the series, and they really do read as one long saga. However, you can start pretty much anywhere in the series and get a taste for it.
Aubrey/Maturin are as good as Holmes/Watson or Frodo/Sam or Quixote/Pancho amongst great fictional partners. And the movie version of Master and Commander is even good!
If you're looking for a new mystery author, try Michael McGarrity. His novels set in Santa Fe and New Mexico are quite good. I also recommend Nevada Barr and Tony Hillerman.
To: Long Cut
Atlas Shrugged. 'nuff said.
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posted on
04/05/2004 5:48:59 PM PDT
by
nonliberal
(Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
To: sneakers
"John Adams" is a thoroughly impressive work. Once you finish it you will be saddened by the fact that there are no modern politicians that can match him.
I am reading "The Contender: Richard Nixon, The Congress Years" by Irwin Gellman. The parallels are ominous.
Next up is John Keegan's new book "Intelligence in War: Knowledge of the Enemy from Napoleon to Al Qaeda."
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posted on
04/05/2004 6:04:27 PM PDT
by
nonliberal
(Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
To: Long Cut
I'm thinking of playing that sort of story straight-up, not as a spoof or a comedy. My concept of a modern Holmes has a few wrinkles, too. Think of him as a "lad", a bit more "street" than his ancestor. A bit more rough around the edges. Picture him, in fact, played by Vinnie Jones, of the movies Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch.
Sort of what I had in mind for a second-generation Holmes, in which Watson would be an uncle/mentor to the young Holmes heir, who would then develop a partner/sidekick/chronicler of his own...perhaps rather differing from the original long-suffering Watson.
Going for a straight clone of the old one would be a tad boring, IMHO. He'd have to fit in his new time frame and context. You could keep most of the old eccentricities, though, like the pipe and such, and his laboratory. He'd be just as intelligent and driven, but more comfortable moving about in the modern underworlds.
Perhaps in the fashion of the original Holmes in his own younger days. *Uncle Watson warned me about the dangers in this venturesome but necessary phase....*
As for Watson, I am adamant that she NOT be some young knockout. Her role would be best served by a middle-aged, proper lady, one offering a marked contrast to the younger, tougher Holmes. I HATE it when lazy writers set up an obvious romance, and one should not be here. I'd picture her as resembling James Bond's Miss Moneypenny in looks and demeanor, if not in her crush on her friend.
Sorta recalls Steed and Mrs. Peel, Don't it. And to, she might be the criminalist technician, commanding her own *Baker Street Irregulars* in specialized forensic fields....
Developing....
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posted on
04/05/2004 9:02:22 PM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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