Vannity- I need help with the new Lib Spin

[JohnRam]

Here is the new Lib Spin. I have number 2 with the Shays letters. Can I get some help with 1 and 3

[JohnRam]

Thanks ahead of time

[EggsAckley]

"Vannity?"

[JohnRam]

I forgot to post questions here they are

From: SCVIndy (Original Message) Sent: 3/30/2004 6:38 AM
Couple of questions for BL/EP/??

Can you provide quotes from senior Republicans who, in the late 90's, criticized Clinton for not taking more aggressive military action against Al Qida? Esp. quotes after the cruise missle attacks saying do more; esp. quotes from the end of 2000 after the Cole bombing saying strike militarily now.


Can you provide any criticisms of Richard Clarke from Republicans prior to his 60 minutes interview? Perhaps when the Bushies came into power, perhaps in the summer of 01 when he was transferred from terrorism to cyber security, perhaps when he resigned?


Can you identify for us suspect if not incompetent staffers/employees of the Bush White House - like O'Neill and Clarke - now? Is there someway to identify these incompetents other than when they speak out publicly to criticize the White House?

[JohnRam]

LOL Sorry it's early

[MEG33]

Condi will testify under oath in public.That cuts that spin off at the knees.Just announced.

[John Jorsett]

Can you identify for us suspect if not incompetent staffers/employees of the Bush White House - like O'Neill and Clarke - now?

Some would say CIA Director George Tenent.

Is there someway to identify these incompetents other than when they speak out publicly to criticize the White House?

O'Neil was incompetent. Clarke is smart and capable, but also an egomaniacal self-promoter who, according to his own testimony, shades the story according to who he's carrying water for. Since he's pushing a book these days, I guess that would be himself.

[concerned about politics]

The Bush Co. played this one VERY WELL!
By denying "the people", it caused "the people" to crave her side of the story. Now, all eyes will be on HER testimony, and the rest will be history. Millions will be watching the Bush side of the story now, and not the biased stories pushed by the left wing media.

Kewl!

[Gorjus]

Condi will testify under oath in public.That cuts that spin off at the knees.

And so, whenever anyone in Congress wants to rake a little muck, the most private and confidential discussions between the President and his advisors will be demanded. This is analogous to requiring lawyers to testify - publicly and under oath - about what their clients have said. This provides the justification for delaying judicial appointments if the nominees won't release private and confidential records (not that the Dems in the Senate would ever do that, right?)

And for what? Will anything come out that was not already covered in private testimony? No. This will provide the Dems a public forum for attacks on the President and his staff, with no opportunity for Condi even to decline to answer a question without looking worse than she does now for declining public testimony on privileged private matters.

This is a victory for the Dems and the liberal media.

[MEG33]

Lots of differing opinions about this here.I happen to think Brer Rabbit has just gotten his wish and is thrown into the briar patch.

[JohnRam]

I think this works in our favor. Now we can demand that Clinton Gore testify in public. We can ask why he did not take OBL when offered. Just my opinion

[mrsmith]

"Can you provide quotes from senior Republicans who, in the late 90's, criticized Clinton for not taking more aggressive military action against Al Qida? Esp. quotes after the cruise missle attacks saying do more; esp. quotes from the end of 2000 after the Cole bombing saying strike militarily now. "

Didn't Richard Clarke claim to be a Republican?

PBS Frontline Program #2103 "The Man Who Knew" Air date: October 3, 2002
"RICHARD CLARKE: Certainly, after the embassy bombing in Africa in '98, it was very obvious that what John was saying was right, that this was more than a nuisance, that this was a real threat. But I don't think everyone came to the understanding that it was an existential threat. Question was, "You know, this group is more than a nuisance, but are they worth going to war with? After all, they've only attacked two embassies, and maybe that's a cost of doing business. This kind of thing happens. Yes, we should spend some time and some energy trying to get them, but it's not the number-one priority we have." "

A PLAN FOR SADDAM Iraq News, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 11, 1998
"...After an extensive study, an ad hoc group pulled together by Clarke concluded-in papers so sensitive they were never circulated below the deputy cabinet level-that, short of invasion, the United States had no good military options on Iraq. Airstrikes were not going to topple Saddam or force him to give the United Nations unfettered access. And UN inspections were overrated: it was simply not feasible to track down all of Saddam's biochemical stash." "

AND in 1991
"...Clarke said the United Nations inspections team has discovered the same pattern of non-compliance exists in the Iraqi chemical weapons field. "Inspections have already revealed that they had chemical weapons of an advanced type that they did not declare to the United Nations." Furthermore, Clarke said, "They had many more weapons than they've declared, and we suspect that they have weapons hidden away throughout the country that they have not yet yielded up for destruction." "

Links to these and other old Clarke quotes Here

[MEG33]

Not really.The Presidents and V Presidents are accorded this courtesy.I believe, despite the trashing of the Office by Clinton,the Office itself demands some respect.

[aculeus]

"Vannity?"

Paging Sean Hanity.

[concerned about politics]

Didn't Richard Clarke claim to be a Republican?

He admitted voting for Gore on TV last night. I think it was shown on a clip during O'Reilly. He also donates to Democrats. My guess is he was a "Republican" just to keep his job , but his facade fell apart.

[concerned about politics]

Didn't Richard Clarke claim to be a Republican?

He admitted voting for Gore on TV last night. I think it was shown on a clip during O'Reilly. He also donates to Democrats. My guess is he was a "Republican" just to keep his job , but his facade fell apart.

PS....Democrats on FOX are already talking about Rice committing perjury. No joke.
I thought the 9/11 commission was just after the truth, not out to destroy souls. Satan is busy these days.

[mrsmith]

I was being facetious.

Another "senior Republican" Clarke quote criticizing the Clinton response for JohnRam's friends:

"In an interview for the book, 'Losing Bin Laden,’ by Richard Miniter, Clarke says he urged an attack on al-Qaeda in Afghanistan after the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole. He says that Defense Secretary Cohen said there wasn’t enough provocation, that Janet Reno fretted it might violate international law, CIA Director George Tenet said he wanted to investigate first, and that Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was against it for diplomatic reasons. Mr. Clinton was against it, too. "

[mrsmith]

Accusing Rice of perjury?

LOL! What a deathwish.
They better hurry and give Nader their lists of dead voters, union thugs, money laundering charties and NGOs before the bankruptcy courts get their hands on them!

[concerned about politics]

Accusing Rice of perjury?

Yep. They're discussing it already, and the poor woman hasn't even said a word yet. They've already lynched her up in a tree.
So much for the 9/11 commission being an unbiased investigation to find the truth, aye?