[Phsstpok]

This is maybe unrelated, but I have always wondered why Jews, especially those "raised in the most Jewish community in the US" could ever POSSIBLY be liberal?

Because everything crammed into our lame little brains, both Jews and Christians in liberal schools, was built on the assumption that liberals were anti-fascist and therefore pro-Jewish and that conservatives were secret NAZIs (notice guys, no apostrophe?). I grew up. She didn't.

I love her dearly, as a fond part of my childhood, and wish her no harm. In fact I want to help her. I don't want to defeat her. I want to SAVE her. Folks here are a big part of that noble quest.

Thank you all.

[Shiloh7]

"In fact I want to help her. I don't want to defeat her. I want to SAVE her."

You cannot save another person from themself. If they do not want to be "saved"/"helped", they won't be.