The Passion is Turning Things Upside Down

CBN News at CBN.com ^ | March 9, 2004 | Gene Edward Veith

[onyx]

BUMP!

[ArrogantBustard]

are there non-Jewish synagogues?

The non-Jewish synagogues are just down the street from the non-mohammedan mosques ... And they all have an ATM Machine in front.

Paging the Department of Redundancy Department.

[Sloth]

Checked out your link -- he also says that John the Baptist is shown in the movie with short hair (i.e., inconsistent with being a Nazarite). I don't remember John the Baptist being in the movie at all. He was killed several months before Jesus' crucifixion, so he'd have had to be in one of the few flashbacks... but I don't remember any flashbacks that would have had anyone identifiable as John the Baptist in them. The baptism of Jesus, for example, is not in the movie. Nor do I see anyone credited as John the Baptist at IMDB. The apostle John had rather short hair, but obviously that's a different person. In other words, I dismiss the credibility of that source.

[Mr. Jeeves]

... [The film suggests], without serious evidence, historically or biblically, the cross on which Christ was to be crucified was made in a Jewish synagogue...

A blatantly false statement. No such suggestion is made in the movie.

[AFPhys]

... The cross is shown as being made, ...

Thanks to the other FReepers: I ought to have said that " ... something is shown as being made ..." but, indeed the scene is only a few seconds long, and I didn't really note whether it was the cross of a shackle or something else, but instead projected that whoever posted the original article correctly noted it to be a cross. I will try to pay attention next time, though.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I've seen it twice, and I never saw the scene you refer to in your emphasis. I think you may be unintentionally spreading a lie.

[LurkingSince'98]

hey bw!

fess up!

is the reason your not going to see it is 'cause you might catch some 'Catholic cooties'?

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Lurking'

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I don't think it IS in the movie. I saw it twice, and I have no idea what he's talking about.

[onyx]

BUMP

[Cold Heat]

No cross making in the film.

The only thing made was a dinette set that Jesus was making at home for a customer.

Mary said "it would never catch on".

Everyone sat on the floor on rugs or cushions back then.

This was done as a "aside" in order to add depth and get away from the emotional story for a minute or so.

A rest stop.

[MissAmericanPie]

I would never have believed that such an artistically beautiful movie of such quality could have been shot for a mere 30 million. I really wasn't expecting the quality of camera usage and artistic bent when I read the cost was 30 million. I expected the grainy footage and poor camera and sound quality that is typical of low budget films.

Gibson has proven himself a savvy and talented producer/director as well as a great actor. He squeezed the most bang from each buck that any producer has ever managed.
It's a film I think must be seen twice, I certainly intend to before it's run is finished.

[newgeezer]

you are mistaken

There's no mistaking that I read that account online (you can, too).

Maybe you information from "online" is tainted by the sender.

Or, maybe it was just subtle enough that you didn't catch it. For now, it's your word against his. I might think to ask a few others who've seen it.

Go see it for your self to be a true witness to what it shows.

Thanks, but I'm satisfied to meditate on the Word of God. I'd rather not have that experience forever influenced by a lasting imprint of someone else's interpretation.

Meanwhile, please note I've made no claim to being a "witness" to what it shows; I merely report what others claim to have seen. There is a (subtle?) difference ;O).

[biblewonk]

I hear Mary is in almost every scene.

[newgeezer]

acting like a Pharisee.

Duly noted. Thanks for your kind input.

[LurkingSince'98]

are you saying see was not there?

[LurkingSince'98]

are you saying She was not there?- sorry

[biblewonk]

I would find it very telling if someone were to fabricate this kind of a lie. A person telling a lie like this would seem to really want to stir up the pot between Jews and Christians and probably also wants the movie not to do as well as it is. The effect of a lie like this is probably the opposite of what the person wants. I appreciate your input and thanks for not going off the emotional deep end as some so easily do.

[Miss Marple]

Well, since Mary was there at the foot of the cross, and followed Him from the trial to the scourging and through the city to Golgotha, it seems to me she would HAVE to be in most every scene.

[ArrogantBustard]

It may also be an homage to a scene in A Man for all Seasons in which Sir Thomas More introduces the fork to the English Court, without telling them what it's for.

[newgeezer]

thanks for not going off the emotional deep end as some so easily do

Amen.