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To: veronica; GirlShortstop; johnb2004; saradippity; NYer; Northern Yankee; maximillian; TotusTuus; ...
Very interesting article.

I had another interesting conversation last light with our (liberal) parish nun, regarding whether Mel Gibson considered himself a "Roman Catholic." She did not consider him "Roman Catholic" because he called himself a "traditionalist Catholic" in the PrimeTime interview.

Confused, I asked why someone who was born, raised, and continues to practice in the Traditional manner (in this case, the Tridentine Rite....not contrary to Vatican II guidelines) could not be considered "Roman Catholic."

She said he stated in the interview that he (and his Holy Family Church in Malibu...a "splinter group" as she put it) rejects Vatican II (per his statements in the interview), thus puts himself 'above' the Church and cannot be considered a true Roman Catholic.

Needless to say, I've become confused at a higher level now, LOL. (I also maintain that some of his interview might have been taken out of context...they took a four hour sitting and condensed it into 1 hour). Any thoughts? It sounds to me that the term "Roman Catholic" is loose, depending on what "it" is.

54 posted on 03/09/2004 8:57:55 AM PST by kstewskis ( "The Passion of The Christ" is here....and no I'm NOT giving up Mel for Lent!!)
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To: kstewskis
You should tell that liberated nun that any baptized catholic who rejects even one teaching of the Church, rejects the entire faith and ceases to be Catholic. So, her friends who contracept, IVF, sterilize, abort and sodomize reject the Church. They place themselves above Christ. They are arrogant.

The list would include all left wing dissenters particularly bishops, priests and liberated nuns. They left the Church a long time ago, yet still march up to communion.
62 posted on 03/09/2004 9:43:49 AM PST by johnb2004
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To: kstewskis
My dear, Raymond Arroyo, Colin Donovan, and EWTN checked Mel Gibson out thoroughly before endorsing and promoting The Passion. The conclusion: Mel is a good Roman Catholic. That is more than enough for me.

But AmChurch creatures like this liberanl nun you describe are just looking for any and every opportunity to sharpen their steely knives and strike at any traditional Roman Catholic -- like Mel Gibson (oh yes, and like me too). And FreeRepublic comes with its own AmChurch liberals who will also do the same honors if the liberal nun wasn't enough. Hold fast to what is true. You aren't confused. You've got it right. Spot on! Don't be dissuaded by nuns or deacons who sling their credentials so as to make you kow-tow to their position. You know the truth. Hold fast, and you will be able to withstand it all no matter what may come in the most evil of days.

65 posted on 03/09/2004 10:13:33 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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