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To: SJackson
If you're referring Jews,........ If as I assume you're referring to the mindset of Eastern European Christians.......If you're referring to the actual post, which from an earlier link, IMO considering the source, ...

I was referring to your quote from someone else's prior post:

"His blood be on our heads and on the heads of our children". This is a clear allusion to the curse that is upon the Jews. In fact, we may see the Shoa as a way in which Christ poured out his continued wrath upon the Jews for their evil. The ovens of Europe, so painful, were yet another example of the curse that is upon the Jews for killing his beloved.

I did not go back in the thread to see why or in what context it was used in nor do I know what the original poster was trying to accomplish with it.

As I noted in my post, that is not how I interpret the passage in Matthew nor how the vast majority of American Christians interpret that passage in Matthew. It seems to be, however, how anti-Semetic Passion Plays in 19th Century Eastern Europe interpretted Matthew.

As in my earlier post to Veronica, it seems to me that a passage in the Bible can appear to be obviously anti-Semitic to someone with an Eastern or Central European cultural memory while the same passage has no such meaning to an "Old American" Bible Belt Chritian who would not know a pogrom from a pierogi.

109 posted on 03/09/2004 2:13:07 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
I have also been in the dark about term I hear used frequently, growing up ina multi-cultural city of Los Angeles California, I never heard the word Anti-Semitism,

The words I heard to be discrimination without saying the actual words are the N---Word for Black people a K---word for Jewish People since I am caucasion I can say this Honky for white people and of course the stereotypical words for Asians and of course the remarks that the Irish are drunks and Italians were WOPS Without passport, since my step-dad is Italian he told me that is what he was called "A Dirty WOP"... I heard about the Holocaust from my jewish friends parents, but never the word Anti-Semite or progrom, I don't know when those words became the word for Anti-Jewish in the USA>
110 posted on 03/09/2004 2:23:41 PM PST by missyme
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To: Polybius
It’s still unclear to me if we’re discussing Eastern European Jews, Christians, or both.

If you’re asking an opinon about American Jews of Eastern European background, I think you’re overanalyzing.

Presuming we’re not discussing academics, movie studio owners, editorialists, NGO officers internet forum participants, all of whom have either strongly held opinions or axes to grind, my experience outside of FR, I don’t think most Jews care much about the movie one way or the other. They’re probably not running to see it, in my experience, which may be unique, it’s not a topic at synagogue or anywhere else, and what people hear is what’s in the media. Not a Christian friendly message, but I think Christians are listening to it more than Jews. Understandably since no one credible is bashing us.

Clearly the experience of 18th century Sephardics may differ from 20th cenutry Sephardics and 19th century Askenazis, they’re gone. But for most Jews if you bring up persecution, they think Europe and Nazis.

As to "Old American" Bible Belt Christians, it’s kind of a shared experience, European religious persecution. I don’t think most people think of the distinction.

114 posted on 03/09/2004 6:37:42 PM PST by SJackson (The Passion: Where were all the palestinians?)
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