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The Guild 3-3-2004 Political Ghost Story
Post Gazette ^ | Dennis Roddy

Posted on 03/03/2004 5:11:05 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:35:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Timeout
That's hilarious. What's next, African-American patent leather shoes?
81 posted on 03/05/2004 5:06:49 AM PST by mountaineer
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Page Six reports:

WASHINGTON'S annual Gridiron dinner won't feature President Bush this year. He'll be at his Texas ranch entertaining the president of Mexico. So the main event will be the comic performances of Rudy Giuliani and Sen. Hillary Clinton. Giuliani is an old hand at this sort of thing from his mayoral days at the Inner Circle, where he cross-dressed once and rode a motorcycle onstage another year. But Giuliani wanted to use a teleprompter. His request was denied. Columnist Bob Novak is set to play Ambassador Joe Wilson, who was enraged a few months ago when Novak revealed his wife was a CIA agent. Howard Dean is rumored to be making a cameo appearance, as himself.

SIGHTINGS - BILL and Hillary Clinton schmoozing with starstuck regulars at SoHo House during their daughter Chelsea's birthday . . .

Liz Smith:

Tina (Brown) then discusses Hollywood's "good behavior at the Oscars," calling it a reaction to "The Passion of the Christ." She says, "The Mel Gibson phenomenon makes Hollywood denizens nervous because it brings home the scary power of what they fear most: Bush country . . . The boredom of the Oscars was a function not so much of repression or despair as of cautious political hope."

No, Tina, it was just the boredom of excessive mediocrity.

82 posted on 03/05/2004 5:17:43 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
But George W. Bush is terrible for using a few seconds' worth of New York footage in a TV ad?

A photograph that became an enduring symbol of patriotism and firefighter resolve at Ground Zero is being used to promote a credit card. The MBNA "Spirit of America" MasterCard is emblazoned with the world-famous image of three FDNY firefighters heaving a flag over the World Trade Center wreckage. rest of story


83 posted on 03/05/2004 5:19:43 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Good Morning, Sweetie.
84 posted on 03/05/2004 5:40:56 AM PST by Iowa Granny (Impersonating June Cleaver since 1967)
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To: Iowa Granny
Ya know how we always refer to the dark side as "Dems" or "Dims"?

I was just over at a site where everyone was calling them "Donks", short for donkey.

I like it!
85 posted on 03/05/2004 5:51:25 AM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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To: Iowa Granny
Hey Gran, I been wantin' to talk to ya. I'll freepmail you sometime this weekend.

ALL: Here's a fantastic article from MS. Noonan: http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/

Don't miss this one!
86 posted on 03/05/2004 9:17:39 AM PST by Endeavor (Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
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To: Endeavor; All
I wish I had more time for this right now. And I REALLY wish I had an inside track to Rush's ear.

I just did a quick search on these 9/11 widows who've been criticizing Bush for his ads. They belong to "September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows".
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/

I haven't had time to read much of it, but a recent press release announced they were sending women members to Afghanistan to "...meet with Afghan families who lost loved ones to the US-led bombing, weighing the positive effects of being freed from the Taliban against the negative effects on their physical, emotional and psychological
well-being".

Non partisan, my foot!
87 posted on 03/05/2004 9:49:29 AM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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To: Timeout
..."weighing the positive effects of being freed from the Taliban against the negative effects on their physical, emotional and psychological well-being".

Were these the same people circulating a petition decrying the Taliban and their brutality against women? Of course, pre-9/11, it was politically correct.

88 posted on 03/05/2004 9:57:08 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Carolina
Of course, pre-9/11, it was politically correct.

Of course it was. Jay Leno's wife, Mavis, made it her pet cause:

Mavis Nicholson Leno is the Chair of the Feminist Majority Foundation's Campaign to Stop Gender Apartheid in Afghanistan, and has been the United States' most outspoken critic of the Taliban's horrific treatment of women. link

When Mr. M and I were in Munich in 1998, we saw a street protest about the treatment of women in Afghanistan. Why do I think that since 9/11, Mavis, et al., haven't bothered to thank the U.S. for liberating all those Afghan women? Oh, wait a minute, international and military affairs expert Mavis has weighed in on the issue (in Sept. 2003):

Longtime women's rights advocate Mavis Leno is concerned that reconstruction efforts in post-Taliban Afghanistan are stalling and women there will suffer. ...

She believes that unless reconstruction is fully funded, "we will render the deaths of those U.S. soldiers who died fighting there meaningless through neglect." .... Speaking during a recent telephone interview, Leno said that many of America's allies who supported the war in Afghanistan have been remiss in fulfilling their post-war financial obligations. "If we don't do it, we'll be back in Afghanistan in 10 or 15 years as the country sinks back into chaos," she said. Because the country's infrastructure was "almost totally destroyed," Leno said, "we need to give them breathing room." ....

Still, there is good news. First and foremost, Leno said, the Taliban have largely been driven from Afghanistan. In addition, the country's new government has put a number of women into official positions, guaranteeing that they will not be disenfranchised. Women are "pushing forward in areas like education for women, medical treatment for women and technical training for women," she said. The situation is far better than it was under the Taliban, "where women were stripped of everything that constitutes human life, except life itself." That was especially difficult because Afghanistan previously had been a liberal Muslim country with a constitution and equal rights for men and women.

"By the time the Taliban took over the country— which they did at the point of a gun and without popular support— women had been holding major positions in society and culture for a long time," Leno said. "Even women in rural areas were moving forward to a more liberal way of life."

Leno also shared her concerns about the post-war situation in Iraq in which guerrilla warfare is taking American lives on a near daily basis. "What puzzles me is we knew about this going in— that the country would quickly revert to war among factions," she said. "I don't entirely understand why a better game plan wasn't in place after getting rid of Saddam Hussein, which was a fait accompli, a foregone conclusion. Nobody thought it wouldn't happen. It was the easiest part."

In a worst-case scenario, the war that ousted Saddam Hussein could give rise to a fundamentalist Muslim government and society, in which women will be little better off than they were in Afghanistan under the Taliban. "Though not living in heaven under Saddam, women at least had opportunities," Leno said. "It was a secular country." link

Isn't that Hillary's line, that women were better off under Saddam?

89 posted on 03/05/2004 10:23:05 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
So transparently disingenuous.

Did you hear the call on Rush's show from a supposed "registered Republican" woman upset and offended at Bush's campaign ads. She didn't believe that the women were coached by the DNC?

Seminar caller!

90 posted on 03/05/2004 10:27:47 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Carolina
TEN THINGS GOD WON'T ASK

1...God won't ask what kind of car you drove, He'll ask how many people you drove who didn't have transportation.

2...God won't ask the square footage of your house, He'll ask how many people you welcomed into your home.

3...God won't ask about the clothes you had in your closet, He'll ask
how many you helped to clothe.

4...God won't ask what your highest salary was; He'll ask if you
compromised your character to obtain it.

5...God won't ask what your job title was, He'll ask if you performed
your job to the best of your ability.

6...God won't ask how many friends you had; He'll ask how many people to whom you were a friend.

7...God won't ask in what neighborhood you lived, He'll ask how you
treated your neighbors.

8...God won't ask about the color of your skin, He'll ask about the
content of your character.

9...God won't ask why it took you so long to seek Salvation; He'll
lovingly take you to your mansion in heaven.

10...God won't ask how many people you forwarded this to;
He'll ask if you were ashamed to pass it on to your friends.


91 posted on 03/05/2004 10:43:58 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I got some new underwear the other day. Well, new to me.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Martha's GUILTY on all 4 counts. Looks like prison bars.
92 posted on 03/05/2004 12:08:06 PM PST by Endeavor (Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
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To: Endeavor
Call me a grouch if you like, but I'm getting tired of nothing but "Big Stink over Bush 9/11 ad" and "Passion of the Christ movie review" threads at FR. Is anything else happening, besides Martha's verdict?
93 posted on 03/05/2004 12:35:17 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Are you telling me that you don't want a Passion review from every single freeper who has seen it?

Next thing you will be telling us that you don't want a daily update on Lord of the Rings.
94 posted on 03/05/2004 12:52:29 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I got some new underwear the other day. Well, new to me.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Yes and yes.
95 posted on 03/05/2004 12:56:22 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Well, I did it. I spent two hours Googeling the names of those whiny 9/11 people complaining about Bush's ad.

The results were quite an eye-popper.
Bush 9/11 Ads: Who Are These Angry 9/11 Victims?

My favorite nugget was in a 3/20/03 Washington Post article about a protest against the Iraq war. Some of these same people were there. The Post said "They wear U.N.-blue peace-sign buttons with the vertical line of the peace symbol rendered as the twin towers". Now, who's politicizing 9/11?!

96 posted on 03/05/2004 3:56:34 PM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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I'd give anything to find a picture of one of those whiners wearing that peace button!
97 posted on 03/05/2004 3:57:36 PM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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To: Timeout
I saw your thread on this. I'm bummed it got moved to chat, but it was very good sleuthing on your part. Please do send it to Brent Bozell. You might want to send it to the RNC, too, as well as the campaign.
98 posted on 03/05/2004 4:17:33 PM PST by Endeavor (Don't count your Hatch before it chickens)
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To: Endeavor
Love your tag!

I sent it to Media Research Center, Best of the Web, Hannity and Neal Boortz. Hadn't thought of the RNC. Do you have their email?
99 posted on 03/05/2004 4:29:18 PM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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To: Endeavor
I found a picture...and he's wearing the button!


These are the 9/11 victims who now complain about Bush's ads. In this shot they've just been released from jail after protesting the Iraq war at the White House last March.

100 posted on 03/05/2004 4:33:01 PM PST by Timeout (Down with Donks!)
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