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The enlightended Mr. Peck wants to see it so he can be prepared to assist with damage control. Likewise for Marc Mutty. Sheesh.

Other groups, including many Evangelical and conservative Christians, say they simply want to see the film because the idea that Christ died for everyone's sins is central to their faith.

Yup, that seems like a good rationale.

1 posted on 02/17/2004 11:52:52 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NewHampshireDuo
The whole NE is a joke.
2 posted on 02/17/2004 11:57:29 AM PST by boomop1
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I think it will be a hard movie to sit through, for the average moviegoer it will probably be disappointing," Mutty said


I think this writer mustn't underestimate the American people especially about their intelligence or their christianity...we'll see what happens...unfortunatley I have nobody to go to in The States to be there to watch the movie...wish I had...(heavy sigh)So, people of America...consider yourself LUCKY!!
3 posted on 02/17/2004 11:59:37 AM PST by FoXyLiZ (Religion, Mel Gibson, The Passion, Movies)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I think it's safe to say that anyone who is anti-semitic when they leave the theater was anti-semitic when they went into the theater. Just my two cents.
4 posted on 02/17/2004 12:00:32 PM PST by NTegraT (Your ears weren't meant to close, your mouth was.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Newsweek contributor Jon Meacham, who said he had seen the film, wrote a detailed story about it for the magazine's Feb. 16 issue. He said some scenes may be interpreted as portraying Jewish leaders as playing a larger role in Jesus' crucifixion than history might otherwise indicate.

Is "history" brought to us by the same reporters who repeatedly bring us "critics" and "experts" and "others"? Its one thing to use this tired media practice of vaguely describing a detractor to leave the impression of unbiasedness, while labeling that which the author doesn't agree to show a bias. Its understandable against Republicans because politics is dirty, but its quite another how Newsweeks Jon Meacham uses his dubious prose to slight a religious group of Christians to imply they are dupes that aren't reading the correct texts to allegedly know "what critics and experts think is historically true" about Christians own FAITH! The arrogance of the press on this issue is so ugly, so obtuse as to be laughable to me...if it was that they had any idea how positively ridiculous they sound.

Ironically, there are people who have come out of this sounding as ignorant of history as the Newsweek is implying; its the beltway press.

11 posted on 02/17/2004 1:47:51 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Treason doth never prosper, for if it does, none dare call it treason)
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Gee, this thread almost lasted 2 whole hours before being moved to chat. I guess the poster should feel "blessed" to take valuable space away from the Sean Hannity's book release "breaking news" threads.
12 posted on 02/17/2004 2:10:36 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Treason doth never prosper, for if it does, none dare call it treason)
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"As a Jew going to see a movie about the crucifixion, I understand it's one of the most central parts of what it means to be a Christian, but I want to see a Passion play that doesn't denigrate Jews or Judaism," said Abraham Peck, director of the Academic Council for Post-Holocaust Christian, Jewish and Islamic Studies at the University of Southern Maine. "People need to understand that the charge of deicide has been dropped by the Vatican; the idea that because they killed God, Jews have to remain homeless forever is groundless. Jews didn't crucify anyone - the Romans were in charge."

The charge of DIE-a-cide???? Hello Mr Peck????
We live in a free nation, what the heck ? Who is the "vatican" going to charge with dei-a -cide?
Are you joking? Kill diety? Kill GOD ??????
Give me a break, Are there actually people out there who really believe that Mel Gibson made a 200 million dollar film so he could Blame a ethnic group who's past ancestors 2000 years ago killed "GOD?" .
You can not be serious!
Are there actually people inside the Golden Walls of the Vatican that are concidering bringing "CHARGES" against the desendents of a nation run by Romans ITALIANS I MIGHT ADD!
If so the vatican needes to indite itself!!!! Hay I mean ROME, right?
Mr Abraham Peck, please read the WORD...
It clearly states that Peter beseeched the Jews after the deed, and begged them to "REPENT OF THEIR SINS!"
Peter was demanding that the jews ask GOd to forgive them because they HAD KILLED their messiah!
I think the best thing for the jews to do on this one is shut the hell up!
13 posted on 02/17/2004 5:10:49 PM PST by Jack Armstrong (a Post Modern America adrift in the Dark)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
"As a Jew going to see a movie about the crucifixion, I understand it's one of the most central parts of what it means to be a Christian, but I want to see a Passion play that doesn't denigrate Jews or Judaism," said Abraham Peck, director of the Academic Council for Post-Holocaust Christian, Jewish and Islamic Studies at the University of Southern Maine. "People need to understand that the charge of deicide has been dropped by the Vatican; the idea that because they killed God, Jews have to remain homeless forever is groundless. Jews didn't crucify anyone - the Romans were in charge."

The charge of DIE-a-cide???? Hello Mr Peck????
We live in a free nation, what the heck ? Who is the "vatican" going to charge with dei-a -cide?
Are you joking? Kill diety? Kill GOD ??????
Give me a break, Are there actually people out there who really believe that Mel Gibson made a 200 million dollar film so he could Blame a ethnic group who's past ancestors 2000 years ago killed "GOD?" .
You can not be serious!
Are there actually people inside the Golden Walls of the Vatican that are concidering bringing "CHARGES" against the desendents of a nation run by Romans ITALIANS I MIGHT ADD!
If so the vatican needes to indite itself!!!! Hay I mean ROME, right?
Mr Abraham Peck, please read the WORD...
It clearly states that Peter beseeched the Jews after the deed, and begged them to "REPENT OF THEIR SINS!"
Peter was demanding that the jews ask GOd to forgive them because they HAD KILLED their messiah!
I think the best thing for the jews to do on this one is shut the hell up!
14 posted on 02/17/2004 5:11:17 PM PST by Jack Armstrong (a Post Modern America adrift in the Dark)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
In one scene, Jesus is taken to be put on trial by Jewish priests. Meacham says the incident is not in any of the Gospels and suggests "greater Jewish culpability and control." In another scene, Jesus tells Pilate that Caiaphas, a Jewish leader, bore "the greater sin" for delivering him to Roman authorities for execution. The words appear in the Gospel of John, but Meacham points out that the final authority was Pilate, and only he could order execution.

This guy doesn't have a problem with Mel Gibson's movie, he has a problem with the Gospels. The guy can believe or disbelieve, but for him to claim that the Jewish trial of Jesus was not in the Gospel's is a lie.
15 posted on 02/18/2004 7:09:57 AM PST by Texas2step
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