Dennis Miller - True Colors Exposed

None ^ | 2/11/04 | G35X

[g35x]

I always thought that Dennis Miller was a fairweather conservative who touted conservative values when he needed to turn around his sagging career. Tonight my hypothesis has been confirmed as I'm sitting hear watching Dennis Miller argue on his CNBC show that it is "dirty" to go after Kerry for his post vietnam treason agains the United States. He's arguing that Kerry should be given a free pass to say whatever he wanted after the war since he had served.

That is simply utter garbage by a closet liberal. Kerry ran out of vietnam at the first opportunity, spent the next few years promoting communism while degrading those who fought in the war, and then spent the next 30 years trying to destroy the United States. Kerry should be in prison, not in charge of the Democratic nominating process and I'm almost inclined to say that Miller ought to be sharing his cell. He too is a traitor to this country.

[quantim]

He too is a traitor to this country.

Not so fast.  Comparing Miller to Kerry is not gel.  Miller certainly is provocative but if anything he can give a mushie a spark.  Remember Geraldo defending Clinton?  After 9/11 he is now going into Iraq (3rd tour) border to border and will be promoting the troops and the GOOD news in Iraq and we hope he comes back alive.  I recall Geraldo when joining FNC that he had changed since 9/11.  He has proven that smart people do change.  Miller simply sorts the dopes from the intellects.

[g35x]

Not so fast.  Comparing Miller to Kerry is not gel.  Miller certainly is provocative but if anything he can give a mushie a spark.  Remember Geraldo defending Clinton?  After 9/11 he is now going into Iraq (3rd tour) border to border and will be promoting the troops and the GOOD news in Iraq and we hope he comes back alive.  I recall Geraldo when joining FNC that he had changed since 9/11.  He has proven that smart people do change.  Miller simply sorts the dopes from the intellects

Last time I saw Geraldo in Iraq he was busy giving away the position of U.S. troops to the enemy.

Liberals don't change - they hate the U.S. and they ought to be brought to justice for their crimes.

[quantim]

Last time I saw Geraldo in Iraq he was busy giving away the position of U.S. troops to the enemy.

True indeed, and he was yanked.  I postulate though his enthusiasm for his 'new found' perspective overrode his common sense.  Stupid?  Yes.  Evil intent, no.  He is also risking getting blown to bits in the coming couple of weeks, a claim I doubt few on this forum could make.  It is ALL about the motive. 

[Jeff Chandler]

Last time I saw Geraldo in Iraq he was busy giving away the position of U.S. troops to the enemy.

My wife and I saw him do that on live television, drawing little diagrams in the sand. We just looked at each other in amazement. The next thing we knew, he was being booted out of embedment.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

Dennis Miller never said he was a liberal. Neither did John Stossell or Bernie Goldberg. They just agree with us on a lot of things. Miller is a hawk as far as the war on terrorism goes, he also believes in borders and language. I have been watching his new show at MSNBC, I have to say that having David Horowitz on his pannel gives him a lot of cred. So to make a short story long: he never said he was a coservative and just because he doesn't agree with you does not make him liberal.

[HangThemHigh]

I don't completely agree with you that Miller is a closet liberal, but I am highly suspicious of anyone who suddenly changes sides. In my experience such a person is almost always either insincere or unstable.

Maybe he was pretending to be a liberal too, I don't know, but I don't really trust him. I am willing to give Dennis a chace and check back later.

[alisasny]

He's arguing that Kerry should be given a free pass to say whatever he wanted after the war since he had served.

I agree with this sentiment for a private citizen, not an elected official. It ought have disqualified him from any elected position involving national security. Frankly this is just the tip of the iceberg and now we get to go through his extensive record serving Mass.

[stuartcr]

Were you in Viet Nam, and do you know for sure that no atrocities were committed?

[Ron in Acreage]

No I was not. Before my time. There probably were some atrocities. But for Kerry to go on national TV and say what he said while we had hundreds of POWs in Nam was traitorous in my opinion. What he said probably caused many of them their lives and untold hours of torture. McCain was rotting for 6yrs while Kerry was here telling the world what a bunch of savages our troops were. He is a disrace.

[HHFi]

I agree, I think that Kerry is pond scum and would never give him a pass on this issue. His group was one of the major reasons people did spit on returning veterans. I just think that Dennis Miller is giving him a pass out of good, if misguided, intentions, and perhaps ignorance of his full record, not out of liberal partisanship.

[Ron in Acreage]

I would really loike to have all the media pundits and anchors let us know where they were during Vietnam. Or if they ever served in any capacity at any time. Just for full disclosure. I'm 39 and have never served. My 19yr old nephew is in the Airforce stationed at Hill AFB in Utah. Electronic warfare specialist. Stealth radar stuff etc. Above my knowledge.

[Fedora]

Miller's comments on that made me angry, too--I had watched every show up to then and cut him a lot of slack, but when he said that I turned the TV off in disgust and wasn't planning on watching again. However I knew he was going to have Scott Ritter on tonight and I wanted to see how he handled that, and I thought he redeemed himself pretty well--anyone else see it? He really took the wind out of Ritter's sails, I thought. My impression was that Ritter was trying to avoid Dennis' questions by using them as excuses to go into pre-rehearsed rants, but Dennis caught him off-guard by cutting into his rants with some pointed comebacks that Ritter wasn't prepared to answer. I'll give him another chance, though he does irritate me with some of his more liberal comments. Hopefully Ann Coulter will set him straight on some things :)

[MEG33]

This poster,g35x, has posted a thread in the Biker bar about sucking in bushbots,finally being banned but already has his new signup here.GO65 is his Biker Bar name at TOS>

[Fedora]

You mean I missed a Zot opportunity? Doh!!! I've gotta practice! Thanks for the ping.

[onedoug]

There was some bad, but far more good, always a function of command.

Kerry was an officer. He had a duty and obligation to report any deviation of the UCMJ. He failed in that, by his own admission. And he has failed in every sense of moral obligation since.

I'm not impressed by his medals or his so-called "service" either. A moral derelict then and now.

[RightWhale]

Bush supporters are hardly a monolithic bloc. This kind of vanity thread is something Moby would like.

[Sloth]

I don't think Miller even claims to be a real conservative. But anyway, Kerry's voting record and modern statements are at least as treasonous as anything he did thirty years ago.