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To: claptrap
I am not certain that Jesus ever claimed to be a "ben-Elohim" = Son of the Celestials, the "gods.. "

I am certain that he never claimed to be a "ben-YHWH", a Son of the God of Israel.

He does, of course, claim to be "ben-h'adam" (ben-huh-DAHM), i.e. Son of Man, Son of the Earthling...But this is the Essene eschatological term, a code word for the Messiah, and is the same word used in Dan 7 and elsewhere in Messianic works Essene, apocryphal, and canonical.
661 posted on 02/15/2004 3:55:30 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: Chris Talk
Didn't He

by implication

claim to be The Son of The God of Israel

in His admitting that Almighty Father God was HIS HEAVENLY FATHER?
675 posted on 02/15/2004 4:27:38 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Chris Talk
I am certain that he never claimed to be a "ben-YHWH", a Son of the God of Israel.

So you're saying Jesus Christ was not God (YHWH)?

729 posted on 02/15/2004 8:03:47 AM PST by realpatriot71 (It's time to build a freakin' wall!)
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