When UFOs Arrive

www.popularmechanics.com ^ | February 2004 | BY JIM WILSON

[goldilucky]

Looks like a kind of book I'd really get into.

[Chris Talk]

I had just ASSUMED you were familiar with the works of Whitley Strieber, who has written 5 or 6 such titles, as Communion, Breakthrough, etc etc.

I have not found those books as useful in my own opinion, but that doesn't mean I haven't read them, as millions have.

[Momaw Nadon]

What do you think will be the national security implications of first contact?

How can the U.S. government prepare for first contact?

[goldilucky]

"Interestingly enough, seriously religious people are very rarely abducted. I mean REALLY religious, not just people who go to church...
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I think you got something there. So, is it possible these beings are agents of satan?

Since my dream, I have also been in contact with messengers of the Lord since last May and June. One of messengers spoke to me and told me I have no need to worry. The other two messengers were I believe to be monks dating back to the time of Christ. I somehow just looked at them but was afraid of getting blinded for they had a message to reveal to me. Something about Israel and Palestine signing a covenantt which is the "false peace process". They told me all this must come to pass and to observe carefully for these are truly the sign of the times. Nobody could see them except me. They were standing next to Bush Jr. and Powell and other diplomats. They were so small in body frame especially wearing gunnysacks as garb.

[ChefKeith]

Thaey are already here and have been for decades.

old news IMO

It's the rest of the world that needs to wake up and "smell the roses"

[goldilucky]

I'm familiar with Whitley Strieber and saw the movie "Communion".

[Chris Talk]

So far, we have had at least 56 years-- if not well more, since first contact of the US government with aliens, so the national security can be compared only by looking at where we have been since [Roswell '47?] compared to what it was before, this is history, not future speculation.

Perhaps what you mean is, what would be the implications of a PUBLIC ADMISSION OR REVELATION, whether the govt did so voluntarily, or was forced to by massive appearance of the aliens or some other factor...

My own view is, the American people are a lot more able to handle this than the govt gives them credit for, and perhaps would remain quite stable. Originally there was, of course, fear that some persons would worship the aliens as gods, others would become totally passive and just say (like a pet cat) just meow for food from their "godlike" owners, and stop working or showing any initiative. Others would just go mad, the govt feared, and start shooting, not that that would hurt the aliens! Maybe that even explains the gun control as well as a thousand other seemingly nutty things the govt has imposed on us since 1947.

As to your second question, many, many contingency plans already exist and we are probably well into one or more of them. But first contact occurred before most of us were born, even if we are now grey and grandparents. They are as prepared as they can get. Some of the orig contingency plans from the 1947-53 period are publicly published and available IIRC.

[Chris Talk]

Yes, that is standard Dispensational interpretation of Bible prophecy, the false peace, there are Bible texts that are used to predict that in some detail. Visit any conservative or Southern Baptist evangelical minister and ask about the false peace of Antichrist, or the 7 year Tribulation. Jerry Falwell would be a well known example of such a believer, as is Tim La Haye, Pat Robertson...

[Momaw Nadon]

Perhaps what you mean is, what would be the implications of a PUBLIC ADMISSION OR REVELATION, whether the govt did so voluntarily, or was forced to by massive appearance of the aliens or some other factor...

Do you have any idea or guess as to when public admission, revelation or disclosure will happen?

[Chris Talk]

There are two answers:

1. As late as possible, and if possible, NEVER. The govt never wants to face any bitter pill, face the music, pay the piper, or other such cliches. Put off the evil day as long as possible, or at least till EYE am out of office!

2. Definitely within the next 22-26 years.

[KevinDavis]

I don't know...

[realpatriot71]

Those ancients were no naifs, they had been through some of what we are going through [again]...

I agree in part, because it explains some of the strange desrciptions we get from ancient cultures as well as explaining ancient man made monuments, only visible from the sky, and the intricate crop circles. HOWEVER, what I think is the consistant approach here, as it applies to "Aliens" and the Great controversy between God and Satan, is that Satan has been trying to decieve man into rebelling against God and ultimately worshiping the devil as God of this Earth. Therefore the only safe conclusion is that "aliens" and "alien encounters" are tools employed in the past and today by the devil to spread false belief contrary to the Word of God.

[macrahanish #1]

I was wondering what the cookbook mention referred to. I remember that Twilght Zone episode.
Every time I see GORT from "The Day the Earth Stood Still," I'm reminded of our last VP. Although,come to think of it, Gort was more life-like than Gore.

[realpatriot71]

So, is it possible these beings are agents of satan?

YES!

We battle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, powers, and rulers of darkness (Eph. 6:12). There is an unseen spiritual struggle and it has been going on since the Rebellion of Lucifer and continues today. It would not be wise to forget such matters! Test the spirits! "(2)Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: (3)And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is in the world" (1 John 1:2,3).

[Chris Talk]

That could all well be, but what about when they literally come knocking at your door? [Not that that has happened to me AFAIK.] And would ALL aliens be treated alike, or might some of them be "angels entertained unawares" ??

[bootless]

ACK ACK!

Where's my Slim Whitman records?

My favorite line: "Look, they're making the sign of the donut!"

[realpatriot71]

And would ALL aliens be treated alike, or might some of them be "angels entertained unawares" ??

I apologize, but I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. Could you rephrase the question (it's midterms and I'm running on about 12 hours sleep for the week)

[Chris Talk]

My own translation of that Ephesians text is:

"For we do not struggle against mere flesh and blood, but against demonic Principalities, against satanic Powers, against the celestial Rulers of the Darkness of this Present Age; --against Evil Spirits in the Interplanetary Spaces."



**NOT "high places," that just sounds like offices in Washington or the UN. Nor is remote empty Space involved. The word used in Hebrew can mean only beyond the Earth's atmosphere, but not out of the Solar System.

[Michael Barnes]

Since there has not been any contact this leads to the reasonable conclusion that we are (1) either alone or (2) ahead of the rest of the universe.

Or 3) Were all running even at this point.

[Chris Talk]

Are any of the aliens GOOD, or from God? If we reject them all, do we run the risk of turning away ANGELS, who some, like Abraham, have "entertained unawares"?