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Questions for Evolutionists
Creation Science Evangelism ^ | Kent Hovind

Posted on 01/27/2004 10:32:22 PM PST by Cowgirl

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1 posted on 01/27/2004 10:32:23 PM PST by Cowgirl
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To: Cowgirl
What is an evolutionist? I have never met such a person. Can you give me an example of someone?
2 posted on 01/27/2004 11:00:21 PM PST by Lurkingfear
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To: PatrickHenry
This is the first time I ever caught an evolution thread before you. Deploy the ping list if you haven't seen this already.
3 posted on 01/27/2004 11:40:52 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: *crevo_list; VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; ...
PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]
4 posted on 01/28/2004 3:43:01 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PatrickHenry
This list sure is one sided! Go figure. I would point the author to Talk Origins.
5 posted on 01/28/2004 3:45:37 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: PatrickHenry
Kent Hovind! I should have looked at the link first. LOL!
6 posted on 01/28/2004 3:48:02 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Cowgirl
Most -- if not all -- of the items on your long list of misconceptions have been around for decades. Some for generations. Probably all of your questions are deal with here:
Index to Creationist Claims.

You may also want to review this: 15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense. From Scientific American.

7 posted on 01/28/2004 4:02:07 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Cowgirl
Can you pick one item on the list so we can discuss that in this thread, then can you make another thread for other items.
8 posted on 01/28/2004 4:05:07 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: Cowgirl
Aren’t you tired of faith in a system that cannot be true?

Indeed, that's why I'm no longer a Christian.

As for the rest of the questions, the askers aren't interested in the answers. They've been answered in exhaustive detail on many threads here and elsewhere, but now they get asked again as if it's for the first time.

9 posted on 01/28/2004 4:15:38 AM PST by Physicist (Sophie Rhiannon Sterner, born 1/19/2004: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1061267/posts)
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To: AdmSmith
Probably not. You see, the creationists favorite tactic is to swamp the debate with a plethora of claims. Then, no matter however many are actually answered, the answers will probably get lost in the noise and creationists can point to the unanswered questions and say, "See! I told you evolution was wrong!"

Besides, most of the questions above have absolutely nothing to do with evolution. She's lumped in about a half-dozen other scientific disciplines (which creationists also believe are the spawn of Satan) along with biology. This is also a dishonest creationist tactic, but one which your average scientifically-illiterate American is unlikely to catch; to this crowd, all scientists (and therefore all sciences) are the same -- smarty-pants practitioners of arcane mumbo-jumbo whose sole role is to lead good, God-fearing Christians astray.

10 posted on 01/28/2004 4:19:10 AM PST by Junior (Some people follow their dreams. Others hunt theirs down and beat them mercilessly into submission)
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To: Junior
Yes, but I am an optimist and hope for the best!
11 posted on 01/28/2004 4:35:14 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: Cowgirl
Placemarker...be back later
12 posted on 01/28/2004 4:48:02 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: Junior
... smarty-pants practitioners of arcane mumbo-jumbo whose sole role is to lead good, God-fearing Christians astray.

To be fair and balanced, I should also present the other side. This is probably the best presentation of the creationist position:
Jack Chick's "Big Daddy".

13 posted on 01/28/2004 6:14:57 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Cowgirl
Boy, it must be easy being you or Kent Hovind. Keep up a set of 50 or so long-ago answered questions on your site, most of which have nothing in the world to do with evolution, and pretend that most of the answers aren't readily available in many, many places, including previous FR threads throughout the years.

Lemme guess, the answers to all of them are essentially, "God." So much for scientific inquiry!

Why don't YOU, Cowgirl, pick out a few of the ones you are most interested in? And please pick ones having to do with biological evolution, not metaphysics, astronomy, or physics. (though, I'm sure others here could supply some answers for them as well).

Some questions for Kent Hovind:

1) I noticed you don't have "Dr" in front of your name on this article, why not? You usually do.

2) Is it because you've been shown to be a hack, a fool, a liar, and a scam artist and that the Patriot "University" you claim to have received your doctorate from is nothing more than a diploma mill in some guy's garage?

3) How is your life-long quest to find living dinosaurs going?

4) How's that problem with the IRS coming along?

5) Your followers often mention how you are "not in this for the money," and that you offer all your lectures, "for free," as if this somehow makes you more noble in your deceitful quest. Why does this tape cost me 10 bucks?
14 posted on 01/28/2004 6:47:36 AM PST by whattajoke (Neutiquam erro.)
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To: Cowgirl
Okay. Here's my best shot:

Where did the space for the universe come from?

We don't know. Not a question that evolution tries to answer. Talk to astrophysicists.

Where did matter come from?

Not a question evolution tries to answer.

Where did the laws of the universe come from (gravity, inertia, etc.)?

Not a question evolution tries to answer.

How did matter get so perfectly organized?

Not a question evolution tries to answer.

Where did the energy come from to do all the organizing?

Not a question evolution tries to answer.

When, where, why, and how did life come from non-living matter?

Not a question evolution tries to answer.

When, where, why, and how did life learn to reproduce itself?

Not a question evolution tries to answer.

With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?

I don't think we know the answer to this.

15 posted on 01/28/2004 6:55:51 AM PST by Modernman ("The details of my life are quite inconsequential...." - Dr. Evil)
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To: Modernman
I don't think we know the answer to this.

You loose-lipped fool! Now you've done it. Your thoughtless admission has given them iron-clad proof of Noah's Ark.

16 posted on 01/28/2004 7:20:13 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Junior
Don't you know, for any subject which scientific inquiry has not answered a question yet, the answer is clearly an invisible diety that has not been proven to exist.

Isn't that just obvious?

If not, you must be a Democrat, or even worse, a libertarian. Either way, you will burn for an eternity in a place known as "Hell." I hear it's something like South Philly, but without the comparatively nice crackheads.

Even better, there are multiple unseen entities vying for the title of God, each of which has followers insisting that it is the "one true" invisible diety.

I just want to know which to blame this imperfect dirtball on! ;)
17 posted on 01/28/2004 7:25:08 AM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: PatrickHenry
You loose-lipped fool! Now you've done it. Your thoughtless admission has given them iron-clad proof of Noah's Ark.

I forgot- When science doesn't have the answer for something yet, then the answer must be supernatural. Silly me.

Damning evolution for not answering where life came from is like damning physics for not answering why my cat is afraid of the vacuum cleaner.

18 posted on 01/28/2004 7:40:55 AM PST by Modernman ("The details of my life are quite inconsequential...." - Dr. Evil)
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To: Modernman
Creationoid question: "With what did the first cell capable of sexual reproduction reproduce?"

Your response: I don't think we know the answer to this.

Actually, we do. Many organisms are known that can reproduce both ways, so the first time a mutated specimen appeared with the capacity to reproduce sexually, all it needed to do was clone itself, as its ancestors had always done. Soon there'd be enough of this variety to enjoy reproduction the newfangled way.

If this kind of question is the best that creationists can come up with as "stumpers," their case against evolution is tragically doomed.

19 posted on 01/28/2004 7:57:46 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Cowgirl
Should parents be allowed to require that evolution not be taught as fact in their school system unless equal time is given to other theories of origins (like divine creation)?

"Divine creation" is a theory? What does it predict? How can it be tested? What should be observed from the tests? How can it be falsified?

Cowgirl, are you ever going to return to discuss things, or are you just going to hit and run, pretending that your post is the end-all-be-all disproof of evolution when it's really just a load of inane and mostly irrelevant questions?
20 posted on 01/28/2004 7:58:34 AM PST by Dimensio (The only thing you feel when you take a human life is recoil. -- Frank "Earl" Jones)
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