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To: Freebird Forever
Favre's last 3 playoff losses: 6 INT's vs. Rams
Stunk vs. Falcons - Vick totally outplayed him
Awful game giveaway floater the other day - McNabb totally outplayed him


I don't hate Favre - I would take him too on my team if I couldn't have any of the real top 5 QB's in the league. But his frequent bad judgments and awful plays keep him from being truly great - the best ones don't screw up as often as he. He is exciting, durable, and has won - and I agree will make the HOF. But he is not in the upper tier of alltimers the way the media makes him out to be. Hence overrated.
130 posted on 01/16/2004 11:36:06 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain
Favre has been having a lot of problems with receiving corps lately. This year was no exception. He hasn't had a solid go-to guy since Freeman slowed down, although some of the younger guys took up some slack, his go-to guy was Ahman Green (second on the team in receiving). In the Rams playoff game receivers ran wrong routes, especially when Favre would call an audible. And anyone who has heard the problems that occur with indoor stadiums, calling an "audible" is nearly impossible. Last year the Packers limped into the playoffs and even at 12-4 probably didn't belong there. As for Favre being over-rated, that is of course a matter of opinion. I would have to check but I believe Favre is close to John Elway in the number of 4th qtr comeback wins. Also , another great QB, Marino, never won a Super Bowl.

Mistakes can hurt a team and Favre made plenty this year, but his value cannot be underrated. Without him they would have been a below average team. Without him for the last 11 years the packers would have been an average or below average team. Mistakes aside, I believe that one cannot underestimate his value to the Packers and the league. When he retires it will leave a huge vacuum, especially here in Titletown. And the press (even I curse them sometimes) will have an even bigger field day when that happens.

154 posted on 01/16/2004 12:11:51 PM PST by jaugust ("Success comes through one word: WORK!" - Bobby Gale)
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To: over3Owithabrain
But his frequent bad judgments and awful plays keep him from being truly great

"Truly great", as you've phrased it, is completely arbitrary.

Will Brett be Bradshaw or Montana great?

In terms of rings won, probably not. But statistically, Brett's already left them in the dust.

In fact, with the exception of these four guys (Dan Marino, John Elway, Warren Moon, Fran Tarkenton) no one has ever been better!

But he is not in the upper tier of alltimers the way the media makes him out to be.

Who resides in the all time "upper tier" by your standards, and how did they earn that status?

Hence overrated.

Those that can,do. Those who can't, criticize.

235 posted on 01/16/2004 4:20:28 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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