KOBE: MANIC SEX FUELED MY ACCUSER

nypost ^ | 1-14-04 | BARRY BORTNICK

[Jimmyclyde]

January 14, 2004 -- DENVER, Colo. - Kobe Bryant's accuser allegedly suffers from bipolar disorder - and may have been in such a "manic state" at the time of the reputed attack that it boosted her sex drive and willingness to bed someone, the defense is charging. The basketball star's legal team, in court papers released yesterday, quotes John Ray Strickland, one of the accuser's ex-love as saying she is bipolar.

[#3Fan]

More than a few women who are beaten have, for whatever reason, stayed in the marriage. There is the notorious Hedda and Joel Steinberg case. He beat her repeatedly and they killed their daughter and got off far too easy.

I'm amazed that the Kobe supporters think it's impossible that some women stay in a marriages even though there is an occasional beating. They must really lead sheltered lives.

Amazing how people who have never met a celebrity, have no idea what he is like, become their frantic supporters. I used to like Kobe. It was disappointing to hear about the rape charge and evidence so far presented leans toward his guilt. In any case, his lawyer sure is acting as if he were guilty.

Yes she is! They're already floating racial stuff with the silly T-shirt thing. If the facts were on their side they wouldn't do this media stuff.

[#3Fan]

It looks uncomfortable, but it should prohibit any semblance of contaminating the jury.

What about nods, shakes, and eye movements (like Hillary's at Bush's SOTU). I find it hard to believe that some as disrespectful as she is suddenly always respectful in the courtroom.

[#3Fan]

The biggest problem the prosecution is going to have is the length time between the incident and the report to the police. The reports are clear that the girl was not in any state of shock when she reported back to the front desk. She supposedly spoked to her mother in the morning before reporting the rape.

The films we see from WW2, the people don't look they're shocked either just before they're executed. It doesn't mean that a crime was not going to take place. The mind has control mechanisms for stressful situations.

[woodyinscc]

But the problem is that all the facts weren't laid out at the pretrial, just the facts to push the case to trial.

The threshold is very low in Colo. The prosecutor had to lay out a whole lot of evidence, just to meet this criteria.

[woodyinscc]

A lot more than blood and bruises? It wouldn't take much more than blood and bruises and behaviour of the two involved before and after the event for me.

The amount of blood was minuscule, and a one centimeter bruise is not indicative of a forceful attack. When she said no, he stopped.(this from her to the lead detective)

[woodyinscc]

She told the bellboy she was raped before she saw her mother. Why don't you learn the facts before you make your claims

Is this the same Bellboy who has admitted to being her boyfriend and having sex with her? I wonder why there is no DNA test for the semen found, when she showed up to file rape charges? I will say it again, I would find it difficult to send a man to jail for 20 yrs. on the facts as we know them.(if indeed they are facts)

[#3Fan]

The threshold is very low in Colo. The prosecutor had to lay out a whole lot of evidence, just to meet this criteria.

Regardless, we haven't seen everything so we shouldn't try this in the liberal media.

[#3Fan]

The amount of blood was minuscule, and a one centimeter bruise is not indicative of a forceful attack. When she said no, he stopped.(this from her to the lead detective)

Regardless it does support her story, not his. And she couldn't say no because he was threatening to kill her being that he had her by the throat if her story is true. Rape probably looked better than murder if her story is true.

[#3Fan]

Is this the same Bellboy who has admitted to being her boyfriend and having sex with her?

Regardless, she did tell someone before she saw her mother, which makes your statement false.

I wonder why there is no DNA test for the semen found, when she showed up to file rape charges?

Dunno. That's what trials are for, to find out why. Trials you don't want.

I will say it again, I would find it difficult to send a man to jail for 20 yrs. on the facts as we know them.(if indeed they are facts)

Being that it's date rape if what she says is true, 4 years is probably the limit he'll get. So you are exaggerating. You wouldn't send anyone to jail for rape. What's your threshold for evidence, videotape? Even then you'd say that a sex-crazed chick wanted it taped. lol

[Dante3]

A great many rapes are never reported. It is not unusual to report much later, to initially appear outwardly calm and only later have the reality sink in.

On Court TV there have been discussion as to why women stay in abusive marriages, why rape victims might not report rape or not report it immediately.

Blame the victim is also common, especially when a celebrity worshiped by many is involved. WE saw the pass given to Paula Poundstone and Michael Jackson. If we dangled a baby off a balcony or had children in our care wear masks in public we surely would not get away.

[#3Fan]

A great many rapes are never reported. It is not unusual to report much later, to initially appear outwardly calm and only later have the reality sink in.

Exactly. The mind has a way of dealing with stressful situation.

On Court TV there have been discussion as to why women stay in abusive marriages, why rape victims might not report rape or not report it immediately. Blame the victim is also common, especially when a celebrity worshiped by many is involved. WE saw the pass given to Paula Poundstone and Michael Jackson. If we dangled a baby off a balcony or had children in our care wear masks in public we surely would not get away.

True.

[woodyinscc]

Regardless, she did tell someone before she saw her mother, which makes your statement false.

BS, why didn't the Bellboy turn the car around and go directly to the police instead of driving her home. Your argument's, at the very best, are specious. You are the one who's mind is made up.!!

[#3Fan]

BS, why didn't the Bellboy turn the car around and go directly to the police instead of driving her home.

She was the one raped if what she says is true, not him. It was up to her to gather herself and report it.

Your argument's, at the very best, are specious. You are the one who's mind is made up.!!

I think he's guilty but my mind could easily change at the trial if I hear something I haven't heard yet. That's what trials are for. We shouldn't try this in the liberal media, like you Kobots want to do. You guys don't even think there should be a trial. So much for justice.

[woodyinscc]

How many times do I have to tell you, I am not a fan of Bryant, in fact I think he is an idiot. If the prosecutor comes out with compelling evidence, I will have no compunctions against what ever sentence he gets. I am not listening to the liberal media, I just think there is a stink in the whole case, but I will wait until I see how it all plays out.

[#3Fan]

How many times do I have to tell you, I am not a fan of Bryant, in fact I think he is an idiot. If the prosecutor comes out with compelling evidence, I will have no compunctions against what ever sentence he gets. I am not listening to the liberal media, I just think there is a stink in the whole case, but I will wait until I see how it all plays out.

Wait and see how it plays out? Earlier you said there's no case. If you had your way there would be no trial to see how it plays out. So you admit that there should be a trial now?

[woodyinscc]

I am not naive, all I said was, with the evidence that we have now(indeed if it is factual) that this case should have been plea bargained down. If Bryant is acquitted are you going to declare him innocent? I notice you only attack at certain parts of my stance, conveniently leaving out what you cannot refute. I have said that if the evidence shows that he is guilty, I can agree with that and would go along with the sentence. You have stated that you think he is guilty, you are entitled to your opinion.

[#3Fan]

I am not naive, all I said was, with the evidence that we have now(indeed if it is factual) that this case should have been plea bargained down.

Exactly. You don't want justice, you want no trial. You've decided to try this in the liberal media.

If Bryant is acquitted are you going to declare him innocent?

Depends on what the evidence is. If it goes like the OJ trial and there is nothing that refutes what we've seen so for, it's highly unlikely I'd declare him innocent.

I notice you only attack at certain parts of my stance, conveniently leaving out what you cannot refute.

I attack inconsistencies. If you have not been inconsistent in places, I probably let whatever you said stand.

I have said that if the evidence shows that he is guilty, I can agree with that and would go along with the sentence.

But you are inconsistent in saying that because you've already said there should be no trial. If there's a chance he could be guilty, why do you want there to be no trial? You don't want justice for possible rapists?

You have stated that you think he is guilty, you are entitled to your opinion.

I've also stated my opinion could easily change depending on the evidence presented at the trial. Unlike you I haven't called for the trial to not go forward. We need trials to discern the evidence. We should not allow the liberal media decide guilt and innocence.