Posted on 01/14/2004 5:39:40 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:18:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I'm amazed that the Kobe supporters think it's impossible that some women stay in a marriages even though there is an occasional beating. They must really lead sheltered lives.
Amazing how people who have never met a celebrity, have no idea what he is like, become their frantic supporters. I used to like Kobe. It was disappointing to hear about the rape charge and evidence so far presented leans toward his guilt. In any case, his lawyer sure is acting as if he were guilty.
Yes she is! They're already floating racial stuff with the silly T-shirt thing. If the facts were on their side they wouldn't do this media stuff.
What about nods, shakes, and eye movements (like Hillary's at Bush's SOTU). I find it hard to believe that some as disrespectful as she is suddenly always respectful in the courtroom.
The films we see from WW2, the people don't look they're shocked either just before they're executed. It doesn't mean that a crime was not going to take place. The mind has control mechanisms for stressful situations.
The threshold is very low in Colo. The prosecutor had to lay out a whole lot of evidence, just to meet this criteria.
The amount of blood was minuscule, and a one centimeter bruise is not indicative of a forceful attack. When she said no, he stopped.(this from her to the lead detective)
Is this the same Bellboy who has admitted to being her boyfriend and having sex with her? I wonder why there is no DNA test for the semen found, when she showed up to file rape charges? I will say it again, I would find it difficult to send a man to jail for 20 yrs. on the facts as we know them.(if indeed they are facts)
Regardless, we haven't seen everything so we shouldn't try this in the liberal media.
Regardless it does support her story, not his. And she couldn't say no because he was threatening to kill her being that he had her by the throat if her story is true. Rape probably looked better than murder if her story is true.
Regardless, she did tell someone before she saw her mother, which makes your statement false.
I wonder why there is no DNA test for the semen found, when she showed up to file rape charges?
Dunno. That's what trials are for, to find out why. Trials you don't want.
I will say it again, I would find it difficult to send a man to jail for 20 yrs. on the facts as we know them.(if indeed they are facts)
Being that it's date rape if what she says is true, 4 years is probably the limit he'll get. So you are exaggerating. You wouldn't send anyone to jail for rape. What's your threshold for evidence, videotape? Even then you'd say that a sex-crazed chick wanted it taped. lol
On Court TV there have been discussion as to why women stay in abusive marriages, why rape victims might not report rape or not report it immediately.
Blame the victim is also common, especially when a celebrity worshiped by many is involved. WE saw the pass given to Paula Poundstone and Michael Jackson. If we dangled a baby off a balcony or had children in our care wear masks in public we surely would not get away.
Exactly. The mind has a way of dealing with stressful situation.
On Court TV there have been discussion as to why women stay in abusive marriages, why rape victims might not report rape or not report it immediately. Blame the victim is also common, especially when a celebrity worshiped by many is involved. WE saw the pass given to Paula Poundstone and Michael Jackson. If we dangled a baby off a balcony or had children in our care wear masks in public we surely would not get away.
True.
BS, why didn't the Bellboy turn the car around and go directly to the police instead of driving her home. Your argument's, at the very best, are specious. You are the one who's mind is made up.!!
She was the one raped if what she says is true, not him. It was up to her to gather herself and report it.
Your argument's, at the very best, are specious. You are the one who's mind is made up.!!
I think he's guilty but my mind could easily change at the trial if I hear something I haven't heard yet. That's what trials are for. We shouldn't try this in the liberal media, like you Kobots want to do. You guys don't even think there should be a trial. So much for justice.
Wait and see how it plays out? Earlier you said there's no case. If you had your way there would be no trial to see how it plays out. So you admit that there should be a trial now?
Exactly. You don't want justice, you want no trial. You've decided to try this in the liberal media.
If Bryant is acquitted are you going to declare him innocent?
Depends on what the evidence is. If it goes like the OJ trial and there is nothing that refutes what we've seen so for, it's highly unlikely I'd declare him innocent.
I notice you only attack at certain parts of my stance, conveniently leaving out what you cannot refute.
I attack inconsistencies. If you have not been inconsistent in places, I probably let whatever you said stand.
I have said that if the evidence shows that he is guilty, I can agree with that and would go along with the sentence.
But you are inconsistent in saying that because you've already said there should be no trial. If there's a chance he could be guilty, why do you want there to be no trial? You don't want justice for possible rapists?
You have stated that you think he is guilty, you are entitled to your opinion.
I've also stated my opinion could easily change depending on the evidence presented at the trial. Unlike you I haven't called for the trial to not go forward. We need trials to discern the evidence. We should not allow the liberal media decide guilt and innocence.
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