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KOBE: MANIC SEX FUELED MY ACCUSER
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| 1-14-04
| BARRY BORTNICK
Posted on 01/14/2004 5:39:40 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:18:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: lulu67
It would be pretty unusual, however, to come 'down' from a manic episode into a depression so quickly... between the incident and the filing of charges was just a day or two? Not unusually in light of the fact that she was using Seroquel, which is an antipsychotic often given to "fast-cyclers" and the Buproprion which is an atypical antidepressant med, meaning that whomever was treating this young woman knew she was a fastcycler (Seroquel), and was worried about her falling into depression (Buproprion). Therefore, if a fast cycler at risk for depression ( or depressed) would go off these med's, her moods would move quite unpredictably, especially towards mania because she had been using Bruproprion (which is structurally related to Methylphenidate [Ritilin]), which after a few half-lives the buprprion would have made her "crash" into depression easily (think about what happens to people who use psychostimulants, then stop, what are they at risk for?), especially in light of the fact that she is also a fast-cycler off of her Seroquel.
Yes, I know what I'm talking about.
So do it :-)
To: FITZ
Was she prescribed those medicines which are given to delusional people? It seems her doctor must have thought she was delusional also.Being prescribed medicines do not mean she was delusional at a certain point in time. There is no magic bullet for the defense here. Her doctor will never testify in this case, btw, there is a privilege that prevents it.
To: af_vet_1981
No, I do not concede that point. I am asking you to render me an opinion as if OJ, Robert Durst, Bill Clinton, and every other celebrity defendant never existed.
What evidence would provide reasonable doubt to you? An affidavit from another man that she was with him and not Bryant at the time of the alleged attack?
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:25:38 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Smogger
Ah. Thanks for the explanation. I have some familiarity with bi-polar's for example I am aware that they often go off their med's because they enjoy the "manic" portion of their cycle.correct She seems to have many of the symptoms of bi-polar disorder (if you believe the reporting) including, increased sexual drive, poor judgement, abuse of drugs and alcohol, depression, suicide attempts, etc correct.
Of course without access to her medical records one can only speculate as to her true diagnosisalso very correct.
To: Howlin
Post the rest of it, you fraud. Nowhere did I say she was delusional; I stated the reason WHY I thought she altered her "perception" of what happened: somebody, most likely the guy she had just had sex with, found out she had had sex again, and she had to come up with something.You flat-out said that you thought her perception was altered. How can you not be saying she was delusional? Sheesh!
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:28:25 AM PST
by
#3Fan
To: Howlin
Post the rest of it, you fraud. Nowhere did I say she was delusional; I stated the reason WHY I thought she altered her "perception" of what happened: somebody, most likely the guy she had just had sex with, found out she had had sex again, and she had to come up with something.You flat-out said that you thought her perception was altered. How can you not be saying she was delusional? Sheesh!
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:28:58 AM PST
by
#3Fan
To: KellyAdmirer
BTW, you need to go and read the judge's order; he said that ONLY because he is required to take the prosecution's "evidence" in the most favorable light is he granting the probable cause.
Quote:
"Almost all of the evidence introduced at the preliminary hearing permits multiple inference which, when viewed either independently or collectively, and upon reasonable inference, do not support a finding of probable cause."
Even the judge doesn't agree with your interpretations..........LOL.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:29:12 AM PST
by
Howlin
To: #3Fan
How can you not be saying she was delusional? Because you took it out of context, as usual, to suit yourself.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:29:52 AM PST
by
Howlin
To: #3Fan
Oh, we can't argue with that one, he/she is a court reporter and thus is the authority here. ROFLMAO!
To: Howlin
I'm a court reporter; Really? You've never mentioned that before. lol
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:31:01 AM PST
by
#3Fan
To: Howlin
No, the judge found a prima facie case of rape. The case was passed on for trial. The judge isn't agreeing or disagreeing with anyone, but simply made a finding. Go look a little closer at the facts.
To: FITZ
The defense itself is saying she was delusional. If you want to argue in the alternative, feel free. I will stick with the facts as presented. Here is EXACTLY what the motion says:
The motion adds, "Such evidence would be relevant to explain why she might be suffering from a delusion about what occurred in Mr. Bryant's hotel room."
It says MIGHT; but, of course, that doesn't matter to people who are hell bent on sending him to jail.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:32:09 AM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
I'm hell bent on sending him to trial, which is where he is going. And if you understand the English language, the defense is arguing that she is delusional. Deal with it.
To: woodyinscc
I am not a Kobe fan, I have just been following the facts in the case(as we know them)!!!Exactly. You've judged him innocent from reports dissemenated from the defense in the media. You guys seem to prefer this case be tried in the media rather than the courtroom. I certainly don't want the liberal media deciding guilt and innocence. I want a jury of 12 to decide that.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:34:00 AM PST
by
#3Fan
To: KellyAdmirer
And he FOUND what HE wrote in the above quote. He clearly stated that he moved it for trial because of
Fisher and because BY LAW he is required to put the most favorable light on the prosecution's evidence.
Now the judge is wrong, too?
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:34:11 AM PST
by
Howlin
To: KellyAdmirer
I understand the word "might".....evidently you're the one having problems with that.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:35:06 AM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
The judge was perfectly correct. He found a prima facie case of rape. The victim didn't even testify at the hearing and there was enough evidence to send it on anyway. Deal with it.
To: KellyAdmirer
You're hell bent on sending him to trial, but only AFTER you deny him a defense.
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:35:38 AM PST
by
Howlin
To: Howlin
The word "might" in that sentence is simply a legalism that means it has not been proven as a fact - yet. Deal with it.
To: Howlin
Because you took it out of context, as usual, to suit yourself.Altered perception is altered perception. How could it be taken out of context?!
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posted on
01/14/2004 10:37:00 AM PST
by
#3Fan
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