[RobFromGa]

very interesting, put me on the ping list please

and could you or another Freeper also describe how a real debate works, the kind with real logic.

[general_re]

You're officially on the list.

...could you or another Freeper also describe how a real debate works, the kind with real logic.

Depends on what you mean by "real debate". Do you mean as in a formal, structured debate - point-counterpoint, that kind of thing? Or do you mean logical arguments in the form of a syllogism?

[Mamzelle]

real debate, from real logic?

That would imply a loyalty to reason first, and agenda second. Most arguments are after the fact--you believe what you believe, and reasons come second.

In fighting the fallacy, most often ignored is the power of the fallacy. More powerful, generally, than reason.