very interesting, put me on the ping list please
and could you or another Freeper also describe how a real debate works, the kind with real logic.
posted on 12/20/2003 5:30:45 AM PST
(Bring Us Your Talented Individuals, Your Visionaries Yearning to Be Free. Keep the Huddled Masses)
You're officially on the list.
...could you or another Freeper also describe how a real debate works, the kind with real logic.
Depends on what you mean by "real debate". Do you mean as in a formal, structured debate - point-counterpoint, that kind of thing? Or do you mean logical arguments in the form of a syllogism?
posted on 12/20/2003 9:20:06 AM PST
("You shouldn't treat people like objects. They aren't that valuable." - P.J. O'Rourke)
real debate, from real logic?
That would imply a loyalty to reason first, and agenda second. Most arguments are after the fact--you believe what you believe, and reasons come second.
In fighting the fallacy, most often ignored is the power of the fallacy. More powerful, generally, than reason.
posted on 12/20/2003 9:22:12 AM PST
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