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To: general_re
very interesting, put me on the ping list please

and could you or another Freeper also describe how a real debate works, the kind with real logic.
4 posted on 12/20/2003 5:30:45 AM PST by RobFromGa (Bring Us Your Talented Individuals, Your Visionaries Yearning to Be Free. Keep the Huddled Masses)
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To: RobFromGa
You're officially on the list.

...could you or another Freeper also describe how a real debate works, the kind with real logic.

Depends on what you mean by "real debate". Do you mean as in a formal, structured debate - point-counterpoint, that kind of thing? Or do you mean logical arguments in the form of a syllogism?

10 posted on 12/20/2003 9:20:06 AM PST by general_re ("You shouldn't treat people like objects. They aren't that valuable." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: RobFromGa
real debate, from real logic?

That would imply a loyalty to reason first, and agenda second. Most arguments are after the fact--you believe what you believe, and reasons come second.

In fighting the fallacy, most often ignored is the power of the fallacy. More powerful, generally, than reason.

11 posted on 12/20/2003 9:22:12 AM PST by Mamzelle
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