[livianne]

Here's one: Dad, I love you no matter what you believe. Merry Christmas.

He knows i love him no matter what, and i know he loves me no matter what. That doesn't mean I don't want to respond to the kind of arguments he's been making for as long as i can rememeber.

also, we're jewish so i don't know how well Merry Christmas would go over :)

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Well, "Merry Christmas" would definitely change the subject.

I tried what I suggested and it changed their angle of attack and made them pause. Liberals don't debate, they argue.