Terri Schiavo: Hitler's Latest Victim?

[FR_addict]

Excellent post!

I once saw a program on the public channel which told of the connection between the people in this country, who believed in elitism and the superior race, and the Nazis. The program basically said the Nazis borrowed their ideas from people in our country. This program took me by surprised, especially since it was on public television, and I had never been exposed to this part of our history before.

The two below weren't mentioned on the program, but here's an example of some of the elistist thinking that permeated our society in the past.

I was in the a museum that has a large collection on Charles Limburgh. I didn't know he was a supporter of the Nazis.

It is not widely known that Margaret Sanger, the icon for liberals, was a racist.

"Magaret Sanger, founder of planned parenthood, used Darwin's ideas to support her racist views of blacks and she founded planned parenthood as a way of ridding society of them via abortion."

russesjunjee, I haven't done much research on the subject, but I think you need to include the history of the movement in our own country. It just hasn't gone as far as the Netherlands yet.

[russesjunjee]

Your right. I really want to focus most of my attention on the movement in this country, but I'm just getting started with this. You all are way ahead of me. Its going to take a while to get it all together. I am only going to use the Netherlands as an example of how easy it can creep up us. I'm also looking at Australia. The death merchants are working very time there.

Junj

[FR_addict]

This is a very important issue and wish you the best in your research.

[TheSpottedOwl]

What a great letter!

[msmagoo]

1920 The book "Permitting the Destruction of Life not Worthy of Life" was published. This book helped support involuntary euthanasia by Nazi Germany.

1935 The Euthanasia Society of England was formed to promote euthanasia.

1939 Nazi Germany (From "The History Place" web site)

1995 Australia's Northern Territory approved a euthanasia bill. It went into effect in 1996 and was overturned by the Australian Parliament in 1997.

1998 U.S. state of Oregon legalizes assisted suicide.

1999 Dr. Jack Kevorkian sentenced to a 10-25 year prison term for giving a lethal injection to Thomas Youk whose death was shown on the "60 Minutes" television program.

2000 The Netherlands legalizes euthanasia.

2002 Belgium legalizes euthanasia.

(From Euthansia.com, History of Euthanasia)

2003 In Florida, Terri Schiavo is sentenced to die by dehydration and starvation. Terri's Law was passed and a stay is in effect.

2003 In Delaware, U.S. Army vet John Mollica's feeding tube is removed in a V.A. hospital against his wife's wishes and under suspicious circumstances. As of Nov. 8, his feeding tube has been reinserted after his wife hired an attorney.

2003 In Oregon, Douglas Schmidt is taken off a ventilator and dies after experiencing a seizure when his medication for epilepsy ran out. A judge refused a request to reinstate life support saying, "I see no reason to change the decision that has been made."

2003 The Hemlock Society tries to change its image by taking on a new name: End-of Life Choices. A national campaign is launched to promote "Patients’ Control & Comfort Act" (PCCA), linking Terri's case to their agenda.

Involuntary Euthanasia is Out of Control in Holland
excerpt:
The Hague -- Euthanasia in The Netherlands is "beyond effective control", according to a report which shows that one in five assisted suicides is without explicit consent.

British opponents of assisted suicide say that the figures are a warning of the dangers of decriminalising euthanasia, as Holland did in 1984. By 1995 cases of euthanasia and assisted suicide in Holland had risen to almost 3 per cent of all deaths.

The Dutch survey, reviewed in the Journal of Medical Ethics, looked at the figures for 1995 and found that as well as 3,600 authorized cases there were 900 others in which doctors had acted without explicit consent. A follow-up survey found that the main reason for not consulting patients was that they had dementia or were otherwise not competent.

But in 15 percent of cases the doctors avoided any discussion because they thought they were acting in the patient's best interests.

Michael Howitt Wilson, of the Alert campaign against euthanasia, said: "A lot of people in Holland are frightened to go into hospital because of this situation."

Euthanasia Campaigners Infiltrating Hospice Movement

The pro-euthanasia Right to Die Movement is intentionally trying to change the philosophy of the Hospice movement by infiltrating it. A website called Hospice for Hemlock claims to represent "Hospice Physicians, Nurses, Social Workers, Chaplains, Home Health Aids and Volunteers" and to support "Euthanasia, Assisted Suicide and Self-Deliverance."

Alex Schadenberg, Executive Director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, said "Any attempt by the Right to Die Movement to ally itself with hospice is an attempt to take over the hospice movement." Nancy Valko, a hospice nurse, warns that "Hemlock and other pro-euthanasia groups have been trying to change the tried and trusted hospice philosophy from providing compassionate care without either prolonging or hastening death to supporting personal or family ‘choice’ in causing or hastening death."

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My comments: This movement, or cult, is determined to make the Schiavo case a "test case" which will lead to increasing abuses of patient's civil rights. Terri never gave her consent nor did she express a wish to die, EVER. The insane judicial tyrants of Pinellas County must be stopped in their tracks before the Death Cult approach becomes the norm.

Sen. Jim King, Judge George Greer, Attorney from Hell George Felos and others who hold or have held positions on Hospice Boards are perverting justice and the Constitutional rights of all citizens by endorsing or actively promoting the killing of U.S. citizens without their specific, written consent.

[FR_addict]

Thanks for the post.

russesjunjee should find this very helpful in creating a website on the euthanasia movement.

[FR_addict]

I completely agree with your ending comments about Terri's case being a test case for this movement.

[msmagoo]

Pro-Euthanasia Group Uses Terri Schiavo Case to Expand Membership

December 10, 2003

Pinellas Park, FL (LifeNews.com) -- The pro-euthanasia group End-of-Life Choices, formerly the Hemlock Society, has started a $60,000 ad campaign in Florida, using the plight of Terri Schiavo as a way to make its case and expand its membership.

David Brand, chief-executive-officer of End-of-Life Choices, said his group started the campaign because it was concerned that state residents would no longer use living wills or advance directives as a result of the state legislature's decision to pass Terri's Law, allowing Governor Bush to ask doctors to reinsert Terri's feeding tube.

The campaign includes newspaper ads in Tallahassee, Orlando, Tampa and Miami, and speeches throughout the state this week by officials of the pro-assisted suicide group.

"Today's headlines are full of the pain of unspoken wishes," one newspaper ad reads. "Save your loved ones the anguish of making a difficult decision when you are unable to speak for yourself."

Pat Anderson, attorney for Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, said she was disappointed the group chose to use Terri's case as a springboard to advocating that disabled persons like Terri be killed.

"Floridians need to know that this is the Hemlock Society with a new name, and they are trying to hide their pro-euthanasia agenda," Anderson told the Associated Press. "They are using Terri Schiavo to promote euthanasia."

"Terri is a victim and they are victimizing her a second time," Anderson told WorldNetDaily.

"Terri should not have to pass a test to be able to live. Even if Terri never gets one bit better than she is today, her parents love her and want to care for her. The fact is they're capable of loving their disabled daughter and, perhaps to these ghouls, that's an incomprehensible concept."

Brand said his group changed its name to be more specific about its mission.

However, pro-life organizations say the organization spends its time promoting assisted suicide rather than pain relief for patients or helping them find hospice care to reduce the desire to end their life.

They say the real battle is the fight to obtain lifesaving medical treatment when it is denied -- in cases like Terri's, that of Jason Childress and others.

Nancy Valko, a representative of Nurses for Life, says the media needs to hold the organization more accountable.

"Where is the media curiosity about the funding behind Hemlock's expensive campaigns, such as that in Maine when voters were considering an assisted suicide bill," Valko asked.

In Maine, the pro-assisted suicide group "Death with Dignity" waged an aggressive $2 million campaign in favor of a referendum legalizing the grisly practice. It received 95 percent of its funding from the National Hemlock Society and its allies, as well as from individual Hemlock Society members from around the country.

The real goal of End-of-Life Choices appears to be government funding of euthanasia, Valko explains.

Faye Girsh, executive director of the former Hemlock Society, said her groups supports Medicaid funding for assisted-suicides.
"It should be like any other medical procedure," she said.

[windchime]

Bump!

[russesjunjee]

Thank you so much for that post....I have gotten a ton of good ideas from it......

Junj may not be back to Free Republic for a while as she is now running with all of the great ideas given to her by msmagoo....LOL

Thanks so much

Junj

[Ethan_Allen]

To: FR_addict

"I once saw a program on the public channel which told of the connection between the people in this country, who believed in elitism and the superior race, and the Nazis. The program basically said the Nazis borrowed their ideas from people in our country."

I just ran across an article along those lines:
"Hitler made eugenics famous, but he took it from United States"
By Edwin Black
http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=13130&intcategoryid=5

To: msmagoo

"The real goal of End-of-Life Choices appears to be government funding of euthanasia, Valko explains.

Faye Girsh, executive director of the former Hemlock Society, said her groups supports Medicaid funding for assisted-suicides.
"It should be like any other medical procedure," she said."

And they have a real friend in Congress, Jay Rockefeller, of the Big Oil, Big Funder/Owner of Tax-free foundations designed to "more comfortably merge us with the Soviet Union" while keeping their own wealth intact, UN-building, Land-Grabbing, Earth-worshipping, People-hating, Nazi-friendly family that has interbred for generations with others of the same ilk, all because of lust for power and money. The Rockefellers are one of the major forces behind the population control/reduction agenda in this country and beyond:

"...Last year, I joined Senator Rockefeller in introducing the Advance Planning and Compassionate Care Act, which is intended to improve the way we care for MEDICARE PATIENTS AT THE END OF THEIR LIVES...."

"...Finally, the Advance Planning and Compassionate Care Act authorizes the Department of Health and Human Services to study end-of-life issues for MEDICARE AND MEDICAID patients and also to develop demonstration projects to develop models for end-of-life care for Medicare beneficiaries who do not qualify for the hospice benefit, but who still have chronic debilitating and ultimately fatal illnesses. Currently, in order for a Medicare beneficiary to qualify for the hospice benefit, a physician must document that the person has a life expectancy of six months or less. With some conditions -- like congestive heart failure -- it is difficult to project life expectancy with any certainty. However, these patients still need hospice-like services, including advance planning, support services, symptom management, and other services that are not currently available.

In this regard, I introduced an amendment to the Patients' Bill of Rights, which was approved by the Senate, to require a comprehensive study into the appropriate thresholds, **** costs and quality implications of moving away from the current narrow definition in Medicare of who is terminally ill and toward a definition that better identifies those with **** "serious and complex" illnesses. This study was suggested by the group Americans for Better Care of the Dying, and is intended to help us shift the paradigm in this country of how we view serious illness. This study will help us to provide better care for that broader category of patients who are terminally ill and have a need for more coordinated care, but who will probably live for another year or two....."

STATEMENT OF SENATOR SUSAN M. COLLINS
SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING
"THE END OF LIFE: IMPROVING CARE, EASING PAIN AND HELPING FAMILIES"
JULY 17, 2000
http://aging.senate.gov/events/hr54sc.htm

See also: Developments in Physician-Assisted Suicide
February 1998*
http://www.willamette.edu/wucl/pas/pasupdatefebruary98.htm

"...13. Federal legislation. Choice in Dying is promoting a federal bipartisan bill for the next Congressional session, known as the Advance Planning and Compassionate Care Act (Senate Bill 1345), which has been introduced by Senators Jay Rockefeller and Susan Collins; a companion bill has been introduced by Rep. Sander Levin. The Act would give Medicare beneficiaries the right to discuss end-of-life issues with a trained professional, establish a national telephone hotline providing information about end-of-life care, require medical facilities to place any existing advance medical directive in the front of a patient's chart, require that states honor directives validly executed under the law of other states, **** ask the federal government to study the creation of uniform advance directives, and direct the federal government to develop national standards for evaluating the performance of health care programs that provide end-of-life care...."

This is on the heels of Rockefeller's Commission on Population:

"....THE GLOBAL 2000 REPORT

TO THE PRESIDENT ENTERING THE 21ST CENTURY

[Quoting, through several subsections:]

COMMISSION ON POPULATION GROWTH AND

THE AMERICAN FUTURE (1970)

In July 1969 President Nixon sent to Congress a historic first population message, recommending the establishment by legislation of a blue-ribbon commission to examine the growth of the nation's population and the impact it will have on the American future. **** John D. ROCKEFELLER III, who had started the POPULATION COUNCIL, HAD BEEN URGING SINCE THE EARLY DAYS OF THE EISENHOWER ADMINISTRATION that such a commission be established. Lyndon Johnson had refused to see Rockefeller in 1964, but by 1968, he was ready to yield to pressure and established the President's Committee on Population and Family Planning: The Transition from Concern to Action, suggested the establishment of a presidential commission to give the problem further study. It recommended that family planning services be extended to every American woman unable to afford them. It also recommended an increase in the budgets of HEW and the Office of Economic Opportunity for the purpose of population research. The report was released without publicity in January 1969, just before Johnson left office. He did not meet with the Committee to receive the report, nor make a statement on it.

In early 1969, ROCKEFELLER'S PRESSURE FOR A PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION was abetted by presidential counselor Moynihan, who convinced Nixon that the time had come to face the problems of population. The President asked in his message to Congress that a Commission be assigned to develop population projections and estimate the impact of an anticipated 100 million increase in U.S. population by the year 2000. For the interim, the President called for more research "on birth control methods" and for the establishment, as a national goal, of "the provision of adequate family planning services within the next five years for all those who want them but cannot afford them." [Meantime, there is no hold on immigration.] In his message to Congress, Nixon stated:

ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS CHALLENGES TO HUMAN DESTINY IN THE LAST THIRD OF THIS CENTURY WILL BE THE GROWTH OF THE POPULATION. Whether man's response to that challenge will be a cause for pride or for despair in the year 2000 will depend very much on what we do today. If we now begin our work in an appropriate manner, and if we continue to devote a considerable amount of attention and energy to this problem, then mankind will be able to surmount this challenge as it has surmounted so many during the long march of civilization.

When the Congress passed a bill in March 1970 creating the Commission on Population Growth and the American Future, President Nixon named JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER III chairman of the 24-member group.

The Commission's CONCLUSION WAS THAT NO SUBSANTIAL BENEFITS WOULD RESULT FROM CONTINUED GROWTH OF THE NATION'S POPULATION.

"The POPULATION PROBLEM, and the growth ethic with which it is intimately connected, reflect deeper external conditions and more fundamental POLITICL, ECONOMIC, AND PHILOSOPHICAL VALUES. CONSEQUENTLY, TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR EXISTENCE WHILE SLOWING GROWTH, WILL REQUIRE NOTHING LESS THAN A BASIC RECASTING OF AMERICAN VALUES." [ A 'wrenching transformation' is how ALgore put it.]

The more than 60 Population Commission recommendations included:

· Creation of an Office of Population Growth and Distribution within the Executive Office of the President;

· Establishment, within the National Institutes of Health, of a National Institute of Population Sciences to provide an adequate institutional framework for implementing a greatly expanding program of population research;

· Legislation by Congress establishing a Council of Social Advisers, with one of the main functions the monitoring of demographic variables;

· The addition of a mid-decade census of the population; and

· National planning for a stabilized population.


These recommendations were overshadowed, at least in the publicity given them, by the recommendations that states adopt legislation permitting minors "to receive contraceptive and prophylactic information and services in appropriate settings sensitive to their needs and concerns" and "that present state laws restricting abortion be liberalized along the lines of the New York statute, such abortion to be performed on request by the duty licensed physicians under conditions of medical safety," The Commission also recommended that abortion be covered by health insurance benefits, and that established federal, state, and local governments make funds available to support abortion in states with liberalized statutes.

President Nixon was unhappy with the Commission report, released in March 1972 at the beginning of his re-election campaign, largely because of the recommendations on liberalized abortion and the furnishing of contraceptives to teenagers (which in 1972 was a bigger issue than abortion). The President met only a few minutes with Mr. Rockefeller. He perfunctorily received the Commission report, but issued a statement repudiating it. No word of support was forthcoming for the stabilized population concept that he had backed in 1969.

Although all members of the Commission showed their support for the report by signing it, several members wrote minority statements about certain recommendations, especially the one on abortion. The Commission debated whether to finesse the two controversial issues, since these recommendations were not of major demographic importance. But Chairman Rockefeller felt it was only right that the majority of the Commission be able to state an opinion on all relevant issues.

The timing of the report was unfortunate in that during the three years since Nixon's population message, the public had come to agree on stabilizing population growth, and the goal of the two-children family was already being achieved in the statistics.

No recommendations were made by the Commission in the resources and environment areas.

The deputy director of the Population Commission staff, Robert Parke, felt that the report and the research volumes made a strong base for future efforts at meeting population growth problems. And he believed the Commission and its staff had learned at least one valuable lesson: A commission studying a controversial subject should not publish its report during a presidential campaign....." http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Depopulation_the_Fog_Clears.htm

THE ROCKEFELLER COMMISSION ON POPULATION GROWTH
http://www.population-security.org/10-CH2.html

THE LIFE AND DEATH OF NSSM 200
How the Destruction of Political Will Doomed a U.S. Population Policy
by Stephen D. Mumford
http://www.population-security.org/index.html
[I only glanced at this one, but it appears to bemoan the appearance that population control hasn't happened fast enough, and attacks the Catholic Church as the reason.]

Which, leads me to post a link to another long article which looked really interesting, but I only had a chance to skim. It shows how the church was infiltrated by Rockefeller cunning, sex, contraceptives, 'bribery', etc. http://www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/CTOA20.TXT .

Then you need to read

POPULATION CONTROL, NAZIS, AND THE U.N.! -- by Anton Chaitkin

ROCKEFELLER AND MASS MURDER


"...In the 1950s, the Rockefellers reorganized the U.S. eugenics movement in their own family offices, with spinoff population-control AND abortion groups The Eugenics Society changed its name to the "Society for the Study of Social Biology", its current name.

The Rockefeller Foundation had long financed the eugenics movement in England, apparently repaying Britain for the fact that British capital and an Englishman-partner had started old John D. Rockefeller out in his Oil Trust. In the 1960s, the Eugenics Society of England adopted what they called Crypto-eugenics, stating in their official reports that *** they would do eugenics through means and instruments not labeled as eugenics.

With support from the Rockefellers, the Eugenics Society [England] set up a sub-committee called the INTERNATIONAL PLANNED PARENTHOOD FEDERATION, which for 12 years had no other address than the Eugenics Society...."

Also: "...Mengele prowled the railroad lines leading into Auschwitz, looking for twins--a favorite subject of psychiatric geneticists. On arrival at Mengele's experimental station, twins filled out ``a detailed questionnaire from the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.'' There were daily drawings of blood for Verschuer's ``specific protein'' research. Needles were injected into eyes for work on eye color. There were experimental blood transfusions and infections. Organs and limbs were removed, sometimes without anesthetics. Sex changes were attempted. Females were sterilized, males were castrated. Thousands were murdered and their organs, eyeballs, heads, and limbs were sent to Verschuer and the Rockefeller group at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute...."

I found it cached here:
http://216.239.37.99/search?q=cache:1HiW4do2M8kJ:www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/UN_Rockefeller_Genocide.html+POPULATION+COUNCIL+NAZI+EUTHANASIA&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Highlighted here:
http://www.think-aboutit.com/Omega/files/omega29.htm

And commented on here: http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/rockefeller_foundation.html , where the poster, a Catholic, discovered his elementary school alma-mater Alumnus Board received donations from 'the notoriously anti-life Rockefeller Foundation'. It sounds like there are two warring factions in the Catholic Church, the one on the left, I suspect, is the Jesuit Order?

SECRET US HUMAN BIOLOGICAL EXPERIMENTATION [in the US]

"...1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the ROCKEFELLER INSTITUTE FOR MEDICAL INVESTIGATIONS, INFECTS HUMAN SUBJECTS WITH CANCER CELLS. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients...." http://www.apfn.org/apfn/experiment.htm

Human experiments without patient knowledge is going on now. Be sure to read this article at the above link: Human Experiments: Sliding Backward by Congressman Christopher Smith. All of this stuff is possible under the Florida Statutes as they are written. It is even possible and probable that organs for transplant are one of the goals of all this legislation; all it takes is a few corrupt individuals, which as we have seen, are in abundance in Florida, and Florida is probably just the tip of the iceberg. A couple of months ago, I was horrified while reading the statutes on juvenile 'delinquents', seeing the Orwellian opportunity for abuse by a corrupt system, including corrupt cops, judges, and medical facilities. Some of the teenagers report sadistic technicians who laughingly put them in some sort of straight jacket, and leave them like that for hours on end. It sounds like there are a lot of Nurse Cratchetts throughout the medical field, anymore. Recently I read that there are over 100 kids missing from the Florida Department that handles foster care for children. Nobody knows where they are. The girl who was the reason for the investigation had been missing for over a year before anyone from the department noticed she was missing, although social workers are supposed to visit each child once a month. Her caretakers, who claimed to be relatives (and I haven't read all the stories, but I think one of them is now in jail for fraud), said someone from the department came to take the child (she was only about 4 or 5 year old!) for "psychological examination" (one of the things that really got me riled up the first time I read it), and the child was never returned. They now suspect the child is dead. I don't know what happened to this child, but do you see how a corrupt, Frankensteinian system could provide organs for the wealthy, at the expense of the nameless and vulverable?

It's NEVER too often to draw the similarities to the Hitler regime, IMHO (although this battle actually began long before him, back in the Garden of Eden). A lot of the major players today funded that regime, and we imported many of their Dr. Jekylls after the war.

In fairness to the pro-life voice coming from the Catholic church, and there are many at these Terri threads, here is another who sees the dangers:

VATICAN ADVISOR WARNS OF UN TOTALITARIANISM
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2000/nov/00112902.html

"...The UN, the Belgian professor observed, "thinks that the world in its entirety has more value than the person." He added that according to this view-- which he said is heavily influenced by New Age thinking-- Christian humanism "has to be abandoned and rejected, in order to exalt a neo-pagan cult of Mother Earth."

Msgr. Schooyans, who teaches at the Catholic University of Louvain, said that the "Earth Charter" currently being prepared by UN officials offers clear evidence to support his charges. In that document, he reported, the human race is depicted as "a part of a vast universe in the process of evolution," and even marked today by "an unprecedented growth in population that overtaxes economic and social systems." The underlying philosophy of the Charter, he said, sees all religions-- but particularly the Catholic faith-- as obstacles to progress.

The UN, Msgr. Schooyans concluded, is now aiming to create a new world order over which a "supergovernment" would preside. This powerful new government would suppress intermediate structures, and seek "more and more centralized control of information, knowledge, technology, human life, health, commerce, politics, and law."

"The Church will have no choice but to fight against such a form of globalization," Msgr. Schooyans remarks."

Here is what he is referring to:

THE ARK OF HOPE WAS CREATED TO CELEBRATE THE EARTH CHARTER DOCUMENT
http://arkofhope.org/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=1

THE POPULATION CONTROL AGENDA
Stanley K. Monteith, M.D.

"One of the most difficult concepts for Americans to accept is that there are human beings dedicated to coercive population control and genocide. Many readers will acknowledge that our government is helping to finance the Red Chinese program of forced abortion, forced sterilization, infanticide, and control of the numbers of live births. Most readers will accept the fact that our nation is helping to finance the United Nations' world-wide "family planning program," a form of population control. Most rational men and women, however, find it impossible to believe that such programs are really part of a "master plan" to kill off large segments of the world's population...." [A classic must-read. http://www.radioliberty.com/pca.htm ]

The goal is to kill off who they deem 'useless eaters' [most of us], and to preserve power, wealth, and the 'view-shed' for themselves. Oh yeah, and enough slaves to keep them in the comfort to which they have been accustomed.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

**** 1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
*** 10. BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH - LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE - LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. **** Any time you hear the phrase "SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT" used, you should substitute the term "SOCIALISM" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter

which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

*** (1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality...." http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

It's happening in Florida, and in all 50 states:

SUSTAINABLE FLORIDA -Coming your way soon
© 1999 Discerning the Times Digest and NewsBytes

*** On March 3, 1994, Florida Governor Lawton Chiles issued Executive Order 94-54 which created the Governor’s Commission for a Sustainable South Florida. In 1996 the Florida Legislature caught the fever establishing the Florida Sustainable Communities Demonstration Project whose goal was to provide models for sustainable communities throughout the state......

Like Agenda 21 and the Convention on Biological Diversity, Sustainable Florida is designed to have high density population centers separated by greenway corridors and ecosystem recovery reserves. The South Florida Water Management District’s Save our Rivers 1999 Land Acquisition & Management Plan calls for land to be purchased "to protect the integrity of ecological systems." "Buffer or transitional areas necessary to protect core lands from adverse [human] impacts" will also be utilized, in part, to "provide wildlife corridors."

Florida Forever has all the ingredients prescribed by the UN Convention on Biological Diversity and the UN Global Biodiversity Assessment (GBA), which are based upon what is known as the "THE WILDLANDS PROJECT." The Wildlands Project was originally envisioned by Dave Foreman, cofounder of Earth First! and now a board member of the Sierra Club. Foreman’s plan calls for setting aside up to half of the United States into wilderness reserves and corridors. (see February, 1999 issue DTT)......" http://www.discerningtoday.org/members/Digest/1999Digest/July/Sustainable%20Florida.htm

"STATE DONATES LAND TO EVERGLADES NATIONAL PARK

EVERGLADES NATIONAL PARK - In another milestone for restoration of America’s Everglades, Florida today donated the last parcel of state-owned property needed to complete the massive expansion of Everglades National Park launched by President George H. W. Bush in 1989. A total of 42,000 acres of state land was donated to the federal government to accomplish plans to grow the park by 109,000 acres – a move necessary to restore the natural flow, habitat and wildlife of the famed River of Grass.

“More than fifty years ago, Florida donated land to the federal government to create the Everglades National Park,” said Governor Jeb Bush. “More than 1 million acres later, Florida’s commitment to the restoration and protection of this natural treasure remains steadfast.” ..." http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/showstory.jsp?sk=3978

The WILDLANDS PROJECT and UN Convention on Biological Diversity Plan to Restore Biodiversity in the United States

"The Wildlands Project would set up to one-half of America into core wilderness reserves and interconnecting corridors (red), all surrounded by interconnecting buffer zones (yellow). NO HUMAN ACTIVITY would be permitted in the red, and only highly regulated activity would be permitted in the yellow areas. Four concerned conservative activists who now make up the board of Sovereignty International were able to find UN documentation that proved the Wildlands Project concept was to provide the basis for the UN Convention on Biological Diversity. They used this information and this map produced by Dr. Michael Coffman, editor of Discerning the Times Digest and NewsBytes and CEO of Sovereignty International, to stop the ratification of the treaty an hour before its scheduled cloture and ratification vote. (See Congressional Record S13790) Since the treaty was stopped, tens of thousands of Americans have used this map to expose environmentalist's efforts to implement this DIABOLICAL AGENDA piecemeal local, just as President Clinton is doing by setting aside millions of acres of public and private land. © 2000 Discerning the Times Digest and NewsBytes." MAP http://www.discerningtoday.org/wildlands_map_of_us.htm

See also http://www.wildlandsprojectrevealed.org website and http://www.wildlandsprojectrevealed.org/htm/show/page2.htm for map of Florida after 'wilding'.

I've read enough of the statutes to see the potential for much evil in the health care field, in the banking and other financial institutions having the capability to prey on the vulnerable, (in fact, they look as if they are being set up to do just that), in the separation of people from their property, their rights, and ultimately, as in the case of Terri, their life. Terri's battle encompasses most all of the problems in the world today. It boils down to a battle between the forces of good and the forces of evil. It's being played out on every stage in this country and around the world. We are talking about the life of a human being here. Someone who was created in the image of God, and whose spirit dwells in her, making her a Holy Temple of God. A country that was founded to preach the gospel to the world is on real shaky ground when it decides to kill innocent children of God, no matter what their physical or mental capacity is, particularly when it already has the blood of over 40 million who were sacrificed in the womb on its hands. We had better turn around quick, if it is not too late already, or our arrogance may find us in the same boat as Jerusalem in 70 AD.

And to those who think the matter of life and death should be left up to kangaroo courts and judges, they should look at what our illustrious Supremes contemplated. It was 'death with dignity' according to Jewish law. After you see this, you might wonder where this idea of drying someone out like you would a log qualifies as the 'death with dignity' we keep hearing about, came from:

"..."All these matters apply to the extent that THE JUDGE DEEMS APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY ***for the needs of the time. In all matters, he shall act for the sake of Heaven and not regard HUMAN DIGNITY lightly . . . . He must be careful not to destroy their DIGNITY." According to Jewish law, a death sentence must be carried out with the minimum of suffering and without offense to HUMAN DIGNITY. This is based on the Biblical verse, "Love your fellow as yourself," and the rule is, "Choose for him a HUMANE death."..." See what sorts of things they consider humane and 'dying with dignity', and ask yourself if you want men making these decisions for you or your loved ones: http://www.jlaw.com/Briefs/capital2.html

May God Bless your endeavor, russesjunjee. Expose the deeds of darkness to the high heavens.

[Ethan_Allen]

More on why they want us dead. You are right it is related to their Income-Tax/Social-Security/Medicare pyramid scam, which they used to buy their way into power. I don't believe they ever planned to pay up after they got themselves to this point.

The revealing story of a rancher
and the national debt
Investigative Documentary By David Morgan, The Asheville Tribune http://www.ashevilletribune.com/hage1.htm

Billions for the Bankers, Debt for the People
The Real Story of the Money-Control
Over America
by Pastor Sheldon Emry
http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Money.htm

[Ethan_Allen]

One more thing. You know that 14th Amendment we hear so much about, the one that supposedly gives Terri her "due process" right to life? Section 4 of that Amendment is the one that guarantees that the banksters get their stolen wealth, and the one the 'Patriot Act' now seeks to defend against Patriots [ http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=2126 ].

"..Section 4. THE VALIDITY OF THE PUBLIC DEBT OF THE UNITED STATES, authorized by law, INCLUDING DEBTS INCURRED FOR PENSIONS AND BOUNTIES FOR SERVICES IN SUPPRESSING INSURRECTION OR REBELLION, SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article..."

Equal Protection Law or Tool of Ursurpation
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/14th.htm

"...But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States," "but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."

If John Ashcroft were a patriot, he would direct his attention to the traitors/robber-barons who rule over us.

[FR_addict]

Thanks for the ping. You have a lot of new stuff on this subject. I'm planning to go through all of it.

[msmagoo]

Well done! Lots of good research.

I think the insurance industry is behind the movement to promote euthansia. The population control program has backfired, due to millions of abortions leaving the United States short on working age earners whose payments would have funded tomorrow's Social Security debts. In other words, senior citizens in general will become a burden onn the system when the government no longer has sufficient funds to pay for their massive health care and retirement costs. IMO, this is one reason the illegals are not being prevented from entering the country. That's a different topic though. It's all related to growing number of seniors and the escalating costs of health care. Insurance companies are stuck with costs that the government doesn't pick up.

[terrasol]

masmagoo,

Thank you for posting this super letter. It points
astutely to a threat most Americans are not even vaguely
aware of. Although the letter implicitly acknowledges the
wider target population of the Nazi eugenics experiment,
it focuses primarily on the disabled. The historical
facts show that people with disabilities were only the
launching pad for the Nazi program.

Once that part was underway, the target list became more
inclusive. First it was the disabled, then the displaced
(Gipsies and vagrants) and finally the disliked (Jews,
East European immigrants and political dissidents). Had
Allied intervention not brought the programs to a halt, it
is almost certain that the dispossessed (people below a
threshold income level) would have been next in line. It
is anyone's guess what group would have followed next.

The turmoil of post-Versailles Germany and a general
complacency on the part of the German people allowed
the Nazi programs to reach the point of no return by
the time ordinary citizens began to question their
moral justification. Those who did, found themselves
in the target group of the disliked, and most did not
live to regret their dissent.

Then as now, there were early warning voices. Goebbel's
propaganda machine drowned them out with noble-sounding
pieces in the controlled Heimatpresse. Taking a look at
how the mainstream media has handled Terri's story makes
one wonder whether Goebbels has not risen from his well
deserved grave.

Now it is only the disabled who fear the slick-tongued
butchers. Most citizens are not overly concerned with
that. Will people wake up when another regime has taken
the helm and included the next target group? Probably
not, because the people will have been alienated from
that group too.

By the time the complacent realize that they too are now
up for grabs, it will be too late. Can we pray that
history may not repeat itself like that?

[russesjunjee]

Great posts everyone. I am copying and pasting like mad.

junj

[terrasol]

Robert Drobot,

While I prefer not to presume upon your intentions
in posting that banality at #6, your choice of language
and the all too obvious logical flaws do suggest that
you are mostly interested in blowing hot air. You speak
of a "hashed over Hitler comparison thing." Are you
suggesting that social critcism that has not yet resulted
in desired remedies should be abandoned on pain of being
deemed "hashed over"? Perhaps the pre-Revolutionary War
orators should have been discredited for presenting the
hashed over theme of taxation without representation?

It is observant of you to notice that the Nazi eugenics
comparison has been "done a half-dozen times since Terri
threads started appearing on FR." Thank you for keeping
such meticulous track, but accounting is a rather minor
contribution to the issue. If that is all you have to
offer, consider yourself properly appreciated.

Allow those with a keener sense of deja vu to share
insights with one another with a view toward finding
ways to influence the repetition of history. The lack
of substance in your post betrays a deficit in grasping
what transpired in Germany between 1932 and 1945. Had
you devoted more attention to that subject, you would
also see the uncanny parallels between the public
indoctrination campaign by the so-called Dying with
Dignity ideologues and the propaganda efforts of Josef
Goebbels in selling the virtues of euthanasia to the
citizens of the Reich.

I am somewhat at a loss discerning the purport of your
statement "I am particularly offended that Johnny-come-
lately claptrappers spout ideas and or actions in a
fashion that would give the casual apathetic moronic
nincompoop American Citizen the impression that an idea
is novel or a public relations photo-op produced any
change in the death sentence hanging over Terri."

I can only guess that it has perhaps escaped you that,
while regarded as crucial and meritorious in its own
rights, Terri's case is merely one item in the discussion
of Nazi parallels to current policy drives. The fact that
those who are discussing it happen to also be staunch
supporters of Terri's right to live is merely incidental
to the subject. The Nazi comparison is not conjured up
as part of a strategy in obtaining justice for Terri. To
the contrary, the judicial and informational aberrations
in Terri's plight are one point in case in identifying the
ongoing American revival of Nazi Eugenics.

I do not fault you for your evident hankering after
novelty. By all means do classify the Nazi eugenics
discussion as lacking in novelty. You and 215 million
soundbite-smitten citizens may well have to wait until
you are admitted to candidacy for humane death before
you will extract novelty value from this topic. There
are numerous diversions to help you bide your time
until then. In that case however you would better
save your words for those things that catch your fancy.
As comments to this particular discussion they are
deplorably inadequate.

[terrasol]

Robert Drobot,

You invoke the moderator to "properly label this
a 'vanity' thread" and then go on to recite a lengthy
list of your accomplishments. It may well be that you
"have contributed more time to Terri threads than" the
object of your ire has, but if your Terri posts are
laced with the unmistakable egotism you display here,
the one post by the person you attack may be of more
value than all yours lumped together.

You indict the poster for "immaturity" and "disrespect",
but besides an excessive use of colloquials like
"nincompoop" your rant is fairly dripping with disrespect
and immaturity. A sample will suffice to prove the point:
"You a [sic]two [sic] big for your britches. IMHO you're
so busy looking in the mirror to grasp the meaning of
reality. Learn to read, listen and from understanding know
what in hell your writing about before you put a pen to
paper. A word of advise [sic] should you decide you would
like to remain a FR member: measure your words very
carefully." Dictatorial immaturity in the classic sense.

Robert Drobot, neither your inept argumentation nor your
egomaniacal style are a credit to this board. You may
claim tenure, but that is a weak substitute for balanced
reason.

[Robert Drobot]

Your pen sees no further than its tip, terrasol (since November 3, 2003).

Little did I realize that saving Terri Schiavo was secondary to joining in your extreme Nazi hysteria; that the Terri threads are not about Terri. Rather, they are about exposing the Hitler agenda within American policy.

Boy am I glad you became a member of FreeRepublic.com. You've opened my eyes to the real issue here, because my only motivation has been to prevent Terri's murder.

When do you suppose Governor Bush become a card carrying member of the ultra-secret Nazi Party of America? Do you suppose the federal government is in on this Nazi plot as well? How many countries do you think have secret cells of Nazi organizations waiting to spring from under the beds of unsuspecting citizens?

So it's all about refining and implementing Hitler's plan.

Boo!!!!