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To: bondserv
Oh? what do you consider "reliable". Some book that's been edited throughout it's history?

"if english was good enough for jesus christ, it's good enough for the united states of america" someone said once.

If you don't think stuff can be lost in translated or abused for other purposes. Go watch The Reagans on Showtime. Latin was no a language of the common people was it? Why do u think that shit was in latin? To keep the common man from even reading the bible. Books from the bible have been lost. There ARE historical questions. It's not a perfect book. It's written by imperfect men. Shall we discuss the EVOLUTION of religion on this planet? Cause u know it didn't all begin and end with Christianity. First known idol is the Venus of Willendorf, 30,000 years old. A fertility statue. A gargantuan fat chick with a behive hairdo. Signifying the supreme value of fertility in early man who was runnin around with clubs and spears and shit. As man evolved culturally and technologically so did religion. Once man was more self sufficient, the focus of worship moved to Nature, weather, other unexplainable things. Once we got past those hurdles, The gods became more human, Gods of war, gods of love, the king of the gods. As humans evolved. Their gods became more and more human. Judaism is the first religion to completeley personify a sole Sureme Being as a patriarchal father figure. What's more likely, god setting abush ablaze and handing out tablets? Why didn'e he just carve them into the side of a friggin mountain? Then we'd know. But no, we're spose to believe, Moses wandered into the mountains, alone, for a little while, came back with some hand carved stone tablets, with a code of conduct. and rule #1 being, this is the only code of conduct to follow or else. I don't deny there's some supreme being or that there's a greater design here or whatever. I just don't pretend to know what it is. Or let anyone try and tell me just cause of some really well written historical text that they put their faith in.

34 posted on 12/05/2003 4:01:10 PM PST by Orblivion
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To: Orblivion
So, the reason you believe in evolution is basically because you have a confused concept of God....
36 posted on 12/05/2003 4:03:09 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: Orblivion
It is my firm conviction, resting on years of cover to cover Bible study, that the Holy Spirit has preserved His word for all to read. I am convinced that the scholars commissioned by King James, painstakingly reviewed all of the manuscript documents that they had access to (which included a newer copy of the gnostic Alexandrian text than was used by Westcott and Hort).

Westcott and Hort chose to use the oldest documents they could get their hands on as their primary documents. They wrongly chose to believe because it was older it was closer to the original. The King James scholars had reliable copies of the same documents from Alexandria and found them to be erroneous.

With the recent discoveries of the Dead Sea Scrolls the King James scholars have been vindicated on their choice of documents in creating the King James Authorised Version.

A Holy Spirit miracle of preservation of God's Word. Praise God.
54 posted on 12/05/2003 4:45:18 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: Orblivion
"I bring you these 15....SMASH....10! 10 commandments!"

Apologies to Mel
216 posted on 12/09/2003 4:15:02 PM PST by BiffWondercat
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