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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Re: 8945

Try all the California coast folks, headed east, with 300 miles of hot dry desert to cross.

There will be no gas or water for sale or available, first the gov will take control of all supplies and next is the simple fact that without electricity the pumps won't work to get it out of the tanks.

The winter of 1954, we had gone to Yuma from San Diego, a nice trip, but coming back that night the pass from the desert to the mountains on I-8 was closed, (snow)we were sent back to the desert to wait for morning.

Coyote Wells, a wide spot on the road, with a tiny cafe, sold out every bite of food and cup of coffee.

Come morning, it looked like an ocean of cars, hundreds of them, parked and waiting.

We went back to El Centro for breakfast, only 27 miles, but if a little snow storm does that, imagine, what real panic will do.

Bill always said that we needed to get guns that took the NATO ammunition, as if we were invaded, there would be bullets available on the battlefield dead.

People are such fools, we once picked up a hitchhiking man and woman with a 2 year old child, out of El Centro and took them on to Yuma, Az. They did not even have a bottle of water with them, I wonder if they made it to Texas?

Yes, I had extra water, people hate to travel with me, I take extra's and then when they get consumed or used, it becomes "good thing that you brought that". LOL

Ruth
8,972 posted on 01/10/2004 7:04:54 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Ruth, whose foil hat includes flowers and feathers, and a kitty chasing them.....)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
In wargaming at the MEF and Regimental levels, I've considered how an enemy might attempt to assault the southern CA area. The recent fires in So CA still havn't been very well explained, although if I were a foreign enemy commander, they sure seemed to have provided a wealth of operational data on populational response trends if SoCA were ever attacked. The fires formed a ring from Ensenada towards the desert and up north of LA to the coast. It didn't take full seige to measure the response capacity of the region and monitor reinforcement opeations.

I wouldn't be surprised if many of the fires weren't well planned.
8,973 posted on 01/10/2004 7:11:50 AM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Bill always said that we needed to get guns that took the NATO ammunition, as if we were invaded, there would be bullets available on the battlefield dead.

That is the most stunningly interesting thing I have learned in a long time!

Yes, I had extra water, people hate to travel with me, I take extra's and then when they get consumed or used, it becomes "good thing that you brought that". LOL

granny, once again you are the voice of reason, practicality and survivability! Thanks for your perspective & tips...
9,004 posted on 01/10/2004 10:15:23 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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