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Is Online Conservatism Being Manipulated? Massie, Bots & Foreign Influence Debate.
YouTube ^ | May 22, 2026 | Chanel Rion on YouTube

Posted on 05/25/2026 6:22:44 PM PDT by Milagros

One America News Network. May 22, 2026. On this episode of Fine Point with Chanel Rion, guest Karys Rhea joins Chanel to discuss allegations of foreign influence campaigns, online bot networks, and growing fractures within conservative politics. The two examine claims surrounding Thomas Massie’s online support base, social media manipulation, donor controversies, and the widening disconnect between online activism and real-world voters. They also explore how foreign actors may amplify existing political divisions inside the America First movement and what it could mean for the future of conservative politics.

(Foreign Bots, Pakistan Troll Farms & the MAGA Divide? Explosive New Claims Author : One America News Network).


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bots; islamization; pakistan; thomasmassie; ukieonlinebots; ukraineonlinebots
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Of course, especially when you you understand that the CCP was trained by, >> you know, Soviet Russia with all of their active measures and narrative and information warfare, understanding that they can't beat us military militarily. So, they want to make America weak and vulnerable and divided. Of course, they're going to prop up people who are against.

>> But, you know, there's data backing this up, too. I mean, we saw some great work. Speaking of data, data republican for example online who's done phenomenal work digging into the money trails that fund a lot of this kind of dissident narratives that are breaking up MAGA and
it turns out a lot of them are bot farms or typing from Pakistan.

>> Right. Right. Absolutely. And I liked what you said in your introduction just even referencing the the the online uh ecosystem of Massie supporters because it's I mean there was some hilarious memes of of people saying like oh you know Massie supporters don't even know that he won because it's only 5:46 a.m. and right like I if you if you also look at just even the polls that some of Massie supporters have been doing online it's so interesting because they'll do a poll that's like do you support Thomas Massie or Ed Gallrein and you know the the the massive number of you know the the the the massive support will go to Thomas Massie so they'll use that and they'll say so where's all the Ed Gallrein supporters I guess they're all in Israel but then they'll do another poll and they'll they'll say um you know uh do you support the war in Iran?
These same people and there'll be 200,000 respondents and the vast majority will say yes and they'll be like oh see Israel controls the the social media landscape Israel bots. It's so inconsistent. It's a double standard.
>> Such a disconnect. Uh and I think a lot of us have suspected this, but this week has been such a confirmation that there is a true disconnect with what is popular online, which is a very certain demographic, and what is actually being voted on on the ground. That said, it could be a generational divide. Maybe all this momentum we're seeing online, let's just separate the foreign influences. Let's say there are some domestic younger people who actually are following the Thomas Massie vein. Um they're going to grow up, go into higher level positions in government, ultimately go into business, get involved in politics a little more just like the older generation is now.
... It is naive to think it's all foreign influence. It's all bots. Nothing is organic because the way that foreign influence even works just looking back towards the cold war is that people don't create uh chaos agents out of nothing. They choose people who are they choose real fissures that are going on, real fractures, real people who are saying things they believe and they magnify it and they amplify it. So, these are real real cultural uh and political differences that we're seeing on the ground. And I I do think it's it's largely it's largely with the youth. But I think that when it comes to this primary, what you saw essentially was that Thomas Massie thought that his his voters in Kentucky were stupid. I mean, here he is. Well, when you look at the donor when you look at the donor list of a good portion of his donations were not from Kentucky. They were from out of state.
>> I heard that. I heard that as well.
And there's also the issue of, you know, all of these donors with Islamic sounding last names, right? Like a dozen donors with the last name Ma[b]rouk or something all contributing at the same time at the same time. The maximum
>> uh uh campaign donation in the same day, which funny enough happens to be $7,000. >> Right.
>> Right. And this suggests this suggests some sort of um you know family donor pattern and these same people show up on Ilan Omar's contribution
>> right, which is so strange this is very this is a world of very strange bedfellows right so suddenly Thomas Massie is sharing what looks like the same base as Ilhan Omar in this fight against Israel right that is a I think a position that not many former Massie supporters would have foreseen him taking. >> So, is it just being paid off? What are your theories?
>> Well, that that actually speaks to what I was I was getting to before, which is that he knew that he needed Trump supporters to win in his state, >> which is why he at the very last minute started running all these ads making it look like he's a Trump supporter.
>> Exactly. So that's that's what I mean when I say he had no respect for the intelligence of his voters who saw that a day before the election. He does an interview with progressive leftists, you know, uh uh Jen Weaguer and um and Ana Kasparian of the Young Turks. like if he's if he's trying to gain the support in a deep red State, why would he go, you know, on a program of of, you know, a vowedly self-declared leftist? >>
1 posted on 05/25/2026 6:22:44 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros

This typing from Pakistan thing... reminds me the “free Palestine” claiming they are “witnessing” in Gaza but they are in Asia or somewhere else...

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-874946


2 posted on 05/25/2026 6:50:12 PM PDT by Freeleesy
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To: Milagros
Speaking of data, data republican for example online who's done phenomenal work digging into the money trails that fund a lot of this kind of dissident narratives that are breaking up MAGA and it turns out a lot of them are bot farms or typing from Pakistan.

Pakies work cheap - the question is: Who is paying them? Is it George 'the evil one' Soros, some commie group or creepy EU 'elites' ...

3 posted on 05/25/2026 6:54:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (How many times did the corrupt MSM mention Biden's $5.00 gas prices vs Trump's $4.50 gas prices?)
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To: Freeleesy
Asking a 'stupid' question here....anybody??

Wouldn't using a VPN account for the disparity of country showing as the 'source'?

4 posted on 05/25/2026 6:57:30 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Milagros

Yes. Right here on FR it is happening. FR is quite a bit different from when I joined and not for the better.


5 posted on 05/25/2026 6:59:20 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Sadly


6 posted on 05/25/2026 6:59:54 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: GOPJ

Besides Qatar lobby?


7 posted on 05/25/2026 7:00:45 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: DCPatriot

It could.

Most VPNs let you choose the country from which will appear to be in.

But would EVERY influencer select Pakistan?


8 posted on 05/25/2026 7:24:57 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: fso301
Yes. Right here on FR it is happening. FR is quite a bit different from when I joined and not for the better.

I've been wondering about that. The level of discourse has gone down quite a lot. And, no offense to the current mods, there are a lot of posts that, in the past, would have resulted in a time-out, or maybe even a ban when Jim was around.
9 posted on 05/25/2026 7:31:11 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Milagros

Bah! Everything is manipulated. It’s only a matter of whether you agree with the manipulators or not.


10 posted on 05/25/2026 7:33:41 PM PDT by x
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To: fso301

“Right here on FR it is happening. FR is quite a bit different from when I joined and not for the better.”

100 percent agree. I started here right after 9/11, linked from the drudgereport. It was a lively and interesting place to be at that time. Now, FR is so full of angry ignorant echo chamber fools. Fools incapable of considering any kind of nuance or opposing perspective. I often wonder if it is due to some kind of hijacking or bot manipulation.


11 posted on 05/25/2026 8:04:19 PM PDT by Languager
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To: fso301

I’m not sure about that. I remember how gung-ho FReepers were for The Patriot Act. Congress passed that sh*t why to fact and if you offered any sort of reticence about it, you were immediately branded a heretic. And probably still are.


12 posted on 05/25/2026 8:52:06 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. )
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To: Milagros

Thomas lost because he kept voting no.


13 posted on 05/25/2026 9:48:06 PM PDT by roving
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To: Milagros

Israel Project 545, Team Jorge, etc.

I’m pretty sure the majority of counties do it. I watched how we did it at the start of the Ukraine war. Sadly, some people buy into it. I’m reminded of the so called ‘Russia bot farms’ during the Russia, Russia collusion fiasco.

The good news is that the younger crowd is far more savvy than the boomers. This is why the Massie crowd was filled with youth and his opposition had like 150 yr olds at his victory speech. They straight up fell for the lies. Kinda sad really. I think the best solution is to not to be in a cult and listen to various opposing views and come to a logical conclusion.


14 posted on 05/26/2026 12:34:23 AM PDT by LilOlLady
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To: LilOlLady

I hope US intelligence are monitoring it


15 posted on 05/26/2026 6:34:08 AM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros

Massie’s problem was President and Commander in Chief Trump did to him what Trump does to his foes:

Pick a target
Freeze the target
Personalize the target
Polarize the target

Lesson?

Don’t give President and Commander in Chief any reason to target you.


16 posted on 05/26/2026 6:43:59 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: All

Dozens of major accounts masquerading as “America First” or “MAGA” proponents have been identified as originating in places such as Russia, India, and Nigeria.
In one example, the account MAGANationX—with nearly 400,000 followers and a bio reading “Patriot Voice for We The People”—is actually based in Eastern Europe.
https://archive.is/8NuQu


17 posted on 05/26/2026 6:46:37 AM PDT by Milagros
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To: LilOlLady

Many on FR won’t want to hear this as they want to believe DJT was the sole reason for Massie’s demise, but:

Looking back at the Thomas Massie defeat, we see how the wealth divide played a leading role. First, it was a defeat that was completely paid for by Big Money people who may have never even set foot in Kentucky. Massie consistently voted against foreign aid. They got him out — at a cost of $32 million dollars.

Second, this was a battle won by Boomer voters. Seventy-two percent of voters between the ages of 26 and 35 supported Massie, while 16.2% backed Gallrein, according to a Quantus Insight poll from May 13. A majority of voters ages 66 to 75, 61.8%, supported Gallrein and 27.1% of that age group supported Massie.

Massie also held a 37-point lead among voters ages 36 to 45 and a 16-point lead among those ages 46 to 55, according to the poll. Gallrein led among voters ages 56 to 65 by a 54% to 36% margin.

A separate poll from Friday found that voters ages 18 to 29 supported Massie by 81.5%, while voters ages 30 to 44 supported him by 70.7%, according to Big Data Poll. Voters over the age of 65 supported Gallrein by a 61.1% to 38.9% margin. One month prior, 78.5% of voters ages 17 to 29 supported Massie and 65% of voters over the age of 65 supported Gallrein, Big Data Poll found on April 8.

The same survey found that Gallrein only held a lead with voters over the age of 65.

Outside $$$$ and age carried the day.


18 posted on 05/26/2026 6:58:20 AM PDT by Oystir ( )
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To: LilOlLady
the Massie crowd was filled with youth

The "Massie crowd" couldn't swing a district primary in Kentucky.

Not much of a crowd.

19 posted on 05/26/2026 7:06:40 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Oystir

Second, this was a battle won by Boomer voters. Seventy-two percent of voters between the ages of 26 and 35 supported Massie.

............

Those 26 year olds were teenagers when ‘they spied on my campaign’ was happening.

Add in two hoax impeachments, the Wuhan Coup flu stolen election and the targeted lawfare their own govt has done to the current occupant of the Oval Office, those youngsters are lucky they aren’t being killed in a war on this soil.

Those are the kind of acts of a govt that would have had people their age years past wondering if they would have to be pledging their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to abolish the Swamp scum that enabled all that..

They’ve been allowed to live peacefully ignorant in Kentucky of their govts long line of abuses and usurpations. Probably learned in school how awesome Seditious Conspirator Obama is/was.

The youngsters probably have a higher opinion of Congress and govt than the older folks.

And their parents and grandparents probably are part of why Swamp Coup Co-conspirator McConnell from Kentucky has been there as long as he has..

Generational schiffheads


20 posted on 05/26/2026 7:23:58 AM PDT by delchiante
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