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Posted on 05/22/2026 11:13:28 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
This video from Black Conservative Perspective discusses a controversial policy change regarding U.S. immigration, specifically concerning how noncitizens apply for permanent residency (green card)
Key Points of the Policy Change:
Shift in Green Card Processing: The Trump administration proposed a policy requiring noncitizens currently in the U.S. on temporary visas to return to their home countries to complete their green card application through a consular process, rather than adjusting their status from within the U.S. (0:47-1:43, 3:20-3:36).
Closing "Loopholes": The narrator argues that this move is intended to close a "loophole" in the legal immigration system where individuals enter on temporary visas (like student or tourist visas) with the underlying intent of staying permanently, which he characterizes as an abuse of the system (2:24-3:12, 14:00-14:32).
Impact on Applicants: The policy faced significant backlash from critics and immigration attorneys who argue it could be illegal, unfairly punish legal residents, and place an undue financial and logistical burden on applicants who may be forced to leave their families or jobs (5:25-6:35, 9:00-10:18).
Clarifying Guidance: A later update from USCIS suggested that the policy might not be a blanket ban. Individuals who provide an "economic benefit" or whose application is in the "national interest" may be permitted to continue their adjustment of status in the U.S. on a case-by-case basis (13:03-13:33, 15:06-15:47).
Conclusion: The host argues that while the media and some advocates are "panicking," the policy effectively aligns U.S. immigration practices with those of many other developed nations and is likely targeting those who are not contributing significant economic value or who may have violated the terms of their initial temporary entry (15:47-16:20, 19:46-21:22).
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Why would someone here on a student or tourist visa have families or jobs established here?
Same ole Cult of Victimhood BS excuses the left always employs.
You need to understand that once someone steps across the border into the U.S. they are “home free” and cannot be deported for any reason. Furthermore, they shall henceforth be known as “our undocumented neighbor” and a member of “marginalized communities”.
I understand perfectly well that the criminal left has encouraged that kind of lawlessness and employs the twisted sympathy-eliciting logic I was addressing to try and get away with it.
It’s an illegitimate argument and I don’t and never will accept it. The left can go to hell!
XLNT. The Uke woman who stole my hose has applied for citizenship. If and when she goes back, I will definitely confiscate hers.
My very nice Uke neighbors will go back there as soon as countrty is safe. They gave a daughter with a new baby there that her mom, Tamara, will care for while daughter finishes college. Prosperous, pleasant family. I hate to see Tamara go.
FUNNY HOW TRUMP CAN CUT TO THE CHASE & FIND THE QUICKEST SOLUTION !!!!
The left stupidly reveals its deception....buncha nitwits.......
HuH?
Jobs? Families?......on “temporary” student or tourist visas?
As always, the devil is in the details. The green card process has been abused, yes. It should be tightened up, yes. But overreach will doom the proposed change, both politically and legally, unless the proposed change is very carefully thought through and implemented. That has not been a strongpoint of the Trump process to this point. He tends to swing for the splashy headline, played for short term political effect, and blunder into unforced errors. Shoot first, aim later.
There are plenty of business expats, employees of U.S. or foreign multinational corporations, who end up spending years in long term assignments. During that time, they meet someone, get married, and have U.S. kids. There are many academic expats in the same situation. There are many foreigners serving in the U.S. military, a traditional path to citizenship as well.
There are plenty of students in the same situation. These aren’t the semester abroad kids; these are the kids who matriculate at a U.S. university, get a four year degree, and go on to graduate or medical school. At some point, they get married and have kids. Do we want foreign students in U.S. universities or not? Trump has done the Trump whirligig on this; the last I recall, he was back to wanting to significantly increase student visas, at least from China, because he had just met with Xi did one of his 180s.
Most of us are old enough to remember the left’s wailing for decades about the “brain drain,” in which the U.S. attracted the best and the brightest from around the world and who ended up staying. These are the people for whom the green card process was initially developed.
Yes, we should continue to work to stop illegal immigration. Secure the borders. That’s a separate question.
Yes, we should have caps on the total level of immigration and return to an immigration system based primarily on the ability to contribute to the U.S. in legal and substantive ways. The mistake here was in the 1960’s policy shift (duly enacted by Congress) to family unification first, which in turn created the anchor baby boom. The people who had come to the U.S. on a long-term assignment to study or work, and whose personal situation changed in the interim (notably due to marriage and kids) got shoved way back in the visa application queue.
When we shifted to a family unification preference, we also created a situation in which large scale reliance on public assistance crept into the system. This is now the norm. One of the dividing lines of which we should be mindful is people who come to the U.S. and are self-supporting, who contribute constructively, as opposed to the tens of millions who come and camp out on welfare.
The historic presumption prior to the 1960’s policy mistake was that extended study or long term employment were essentially de facto screening mechanisms — an auditioning process — for application to permanent residency and eventual citizenship.
The people who pass these tests are the keepers. They’re the one we should WANT to remain. We WANT to remain open to the world’s best and brightest, subject to some rational limit on total numbers of total immigrants from all sources.
The left has tried to resolve all of these sticky problems by shifting to open immigration. This is a very new thing. The right shouldn’t overcorrect in the opposite direction and slide into a zero-immigration mindset.
What the heck are we supposed to do? Make all decisions about a pathway to permanent citizenship when someone in some obscure corner of the world who has never set foot in the U.S. applies for a visa? Because State Department consular officers have superior Jedi mindpowers that allow them to tell who, ten years down the road, will become a constructive, contributing citizen?
I don’t have that much faith in consular officers. Long term study and long term employment as a business or academic expat SHOULD BE the halfway houses that allow us to vet people before they apply for permanent status.
Trump has a bad habit of overreaching and sucker punching himself. The travel ban he attempted to impose shortly after taking office was a classic example. The policy change popped out of nowhere overnight, with no prior notification, discussion or formal rulemaking. Suddenly visas were cancelled overnight for people from a country on Trump’s suspect list, without any hint of a suspicion regarding any particular individual. People who had lived in the U.S. for years, who had greencards, who were well along on the road to citizenship, and who happened to be traveling abroad when the overnight change was announced found themselves stranded. Some people literally had their visas revoked while they were in midair on their return flights. Their documents were good when they boarded the plane. They were’t good when they landed. Bewildered immigration officers at airports, who had received no briefing or detailed instructions, were suddenly told they were to ignore U.S. greencards or student or employment visas — all cancelled overnight — and turn people away as they were deboarding planes. This was supremely idiotic and did not survive the first judge to review it. Trump’s gambit collapsed within hours. As any rational person in Trump’s inner circle should have told him it would.
Trump has a knack for sucker punching himself. The devil is in the details. I live in DC. It’s enough of a cosmopolitan city that even I know several foreign nationals that we should want to keep. They’ve been here legally for long enough to have proven themselves. After ten or fifteen years in the U.S., they shouldn’t have to go back to wherever and start from scratch fighting a ten or fifteen year process applying de novo for permanent residency status. Yes, vet them carefully — but constructive long-term residency in the U.S. is a better vetting system than any paperwork maze the bureaucrats and lawyers will come up with.
Since that will almost certainly never happen, it’s easy for me to say that I would be glad to.
I’m just tired of Trump’s unforced errors.
And his tendency to beat up on Republicans, conservatives, and rational people generally — including members of his own team — who try to warn him, because he considers them traitors if they are anything less than clapping seals.
JD Vance has the toughest job in Washington right now.
Marco Rubio has done a remarkable good job of maintaining enough distance to manage his department without getting paralyzed by the hour-by-hour gyrations on Truth Social, and keeping his own nose clean in the process.
P.S. In this particular case:
I did open up the link in this story and started the YouTube video. But it is over 20 minutes long, so I just watched the opening clips from JD Vance. I dropped off when the YouTuber took over and started yacking. The YouTuber might be solid, or not, but he didn’t sound like he knew what he was talking about.
Anyhow, the video opens with a clip of Vance talking about shifting the presumption, so that a foreigner present in the U.S. on some other type of visa will generally have to return to his country of origin to start his green card process. But then Vance slides — as he necessarily must — into talking about careful case-by-case reviews. Because there are always exceptions.
How long a person has been in the U.S. makes a big difference. Overstaying a tourist visa is one thing. A foreign medical school graduate is another thing. Long term expats on H-1B visas are another; that process has been abused, notably by big tech which is being taken over by people from India, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t worthy cases we should want to keep in the U.S.
Sham green card “marriages” are an abuse. But real marriages between a U.S. citizen and a long term foreign expat are something else. If the lines aren’t spelled out in regulations or even legislation, they will be made on an ad hoc basis by bureaucrats and judges, and we know where that leads.
Trump speaks in terms of broad intentions, expressed however he thinks will have maximum short term political impact.
Talking in terms of broad intentions is fine if the underlying policy is carefully thought through, drafted and ready to be rolled out. Then the broad intentions are a matter of framing the debate.
But Trump tends to announce the broad intention before he’s done the underlying work. There are always hard cases and judgement calls. Unless a detailed policy is on paper and ready to be turned into a formal rulemaking, what will happen now is that we will immediately be deluged with the sympathetic examples about which, on the equities, even most freepers would agree should warrant an exception to the broad rule.
The thing is, in the real world, the nuances have to be specified as clearly as possible in detailed policy. Otherwise we’re just creating another zone of untrammeled arbitrary authority for whatever bureaucrat or magistrate gets a particular case.
After finally getting to Rome and seeing the Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore, one of my little jokes has been that I don’t care what the immigration regs say ... Raphael gets a green card. I’ll even hide him in my basement for as long as it takes if he agrees to paint my walls and ceilings in lieu of rent.
There are always the worthy cases. There are many of them. We should acknowledge them. Turning the exceptions into rules in the regulations is the tricky part, because if that’s not done carefully, the exceptions will become wedges for blowing the broad policy to pieces.
Would it be more accurate to say that it is not a “loophole in the policy” but rather existing law?
You are correct in pointing out Trump’s tendency to shoot from the hip. No one can spout off quite like he can.
I also agree with you that many of the immigrants have skills that we need. I have to ask, though, if we have the resources to examine each case in detail. I’m not sure we do, or even want to.
The bottom line, as I see it, is competition for jobs. As long as there is a large foreign (as in cheap) labor pool, American workers will be priced out of the job market.
I’m aware that it’s American companies hiring foreigners at the expense of their own people.
That makes it even harder to take.
Unless/until the WOT is resolved,we SHOULD be at zero immigration!
Yep - The “logic” of lawyers and “employers” is (as Roger Miller would say), ...”pure DBU double L bull”
Raphael still gets a green card.
My wife finally got a tourist visa after 8 years of trying and being denied 4 times for tourist and fiancé visas. We came to the US and decided to move here in 2018, but left the country every 6 months while trying to get a green card using US Immigration. Took 2.5 years to get her approved. And since she’s moved here she has not worked in the US or been on any kind of government assistance program. However, totally embraced her favorite hobby, shopping.
So I don’t totally agree with Trump’s move. Being able to live in the US while getting a green card resulted in taxes being paid without any public assistance. Probably a rare occurrence but should be a door that stays open IMHO.
Just FYI, the only near countries a most foreigners can visit without a visa are Haiti and Panama, it was nice to be in Panama in December.
I thought all you Jeb Bush! guys went into hiding.
From personal experience (my wife has a green card) - the requirement to finish the process in the home country is for practical purposes impossible. In Brazil I think there are only 2 US embassies, one in Sao Paulo and one in Brasilia. Southern and western Brazil are about 900 miles from the closest US embassy. In the US there are 2 immigration (USCIS) facilities within 40 miles. Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater, all the good quality immigrants are on the list for a green card, the criminals and losers are running loose outside the immigration system. Also my relatives had to travel 1200 miles round trip to get a temporary visa to enter the US. They do this once every 2 years or so. All have college degrees, one a lawyer. They stay 3 weeks and then go back. Visa overstays happen but 99 percent just come for their study or work or visit and go back. Eagle Pass is different. They can’t apply for a green card after entering illegally, in the immigration process you show your passport and if it isn’t stamped at a port of entry you are a criminal and will never get any legal status except the Biden “asylum seeker” BS.
“There are many foreigners serving in the U.S. military, a traditional path to citizenship as well.”
Yes.
Those Military personnel who are foreign nationals if they want to become US citizens, still have to go through the process. While they’re in the military, the military will accommodate them going through the process all the way through to raising their right hand and pledging allegiance to the United States of America. It’s not a gimme.
I’ve seen many foreign nationals in the military who have just kinda not done that! And it was weird that they chose not take advantage when everything was made available.
On the other hand I’ve seen many foreign nationals in the military.Take advantage of the opportunities and are grateful they did and are proud citizens of the USA.
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