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Did Jesus DIE on a CROSS or an UPRIGHT STAKE? {Jehovah's Witnesses' refuted}
Mexican Abroad YouTube channel ^ | Jan 9, 2026 | "Mexican Abroad"

Posted on 01/09/2026 9:32:46 AM PST by Salman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Toyn-YJsM

19 minute video


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A detailed refutation of one of the very peculiar doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses.
1 posted on 01/09/2026 9:32:46 AM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus is God’s “only-begotten Son”, and that his life began in heaven. He is described as God’s first creation and the “exact representation of God”, but is believed to be a separate entity and not part of a Trinity.

My question is why put their theories into competition with others? I neither feel a need to challenge their beliefs nor refute their worship. Why do they refute mine. I’m not in competition with them, so I don’t challenge them. Worship- how you wish. That’s what our country is based upon.

wy69


2 posted on 01/09/2026 9:42:21 AM PST by whitney69 (b)
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To: Salman

Hard to believe that the JWs are still pushing this nonsense ... on the other hand lefties are still pushing the nonsense that communism works.


3 posted on 01/09/2026 9:43:00 AM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Salman

I have JWs for nextdoor neighbors.

Best neighbors I’ve ever had.....we just don’t talk religion.


4 posted on 01/09/2026 9:46:57 AM PST by V_TWIN (America........so great even the people that hate it won't leave)
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To: Belteshazzar
Did Jesus die on a cross or a stake?

who cares, he died and rose again,

let me put this into simple words... to quote Archie Bunker " would you have preferred he was thrown out a window?"

5 posted on 01/09/2026 9:48:15 AM PST by Ikeon (Kill me, and I'll become more powerful than you could ever imagine. )
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To: Salman

Missing the really important thing...he died to save us, to wash all of us in His blood, remove our sins and give us everlasting life, the method of that salvation is just part of that story, it’s the ending that matters.


6 posted on 01/09/2026 9:51:26 AM PST by The Louiswu (USA FIRST...USA FOREVER)
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To: Belteshazzar

I pointed out to a JW that if only 144k go to the kingdom, you are NOT improving your chances by getting new converts.
Logically you should be “removing” converts.


7 posted on 01/09/2026 9:53:05 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Zathras

LOL I said the same thing years ago. He and I laughed over it.


8 posted on 01/09/2026 9:56:47 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Belteshazzar
Hard to believe that the JWs are still pushing this nonsense

After all of the false prophesies that their past leaders have made, you'd think people would smell fraud.

9 posted on 01/09/2026 9:58:44 AM PST by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left)
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To: Zathras

They believe the only ones who go to Heaven are the 144,000 of which the Disciples are some and many through the ages which have passed are part of that number.

The rest go to Paradise.


10 posted on 01/09/2026 9:59:07 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Salman

JW don’t celebrate anyone’s birthday. I was told by a JW that was because such a celebration is not in the Bible.


11 posted on 01/09/2026 10:10:15 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Salman

“Crucified” comes from Latin crucifixus, meaning “fixed to a cross,”


12 posted on 01/09/2026 10:11:20 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: CodeToad

I hope they walk everywhere they go because that is what Jesus did & autos & other motorized conveyances are not even mentioned in the Bible to my knowledge.


13 posted on 01/09/2026 10:15:33 AM PST by oldtech
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To: oldtech

Yes, JW should consider Amish as impossibly liberal.


14 posted on 01/09/2026 10:28:45 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: oldtech

I just thought it odd not to celebrate God’s creations.


15 posted on 01/09/2026 10:29:34 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: whitney69
"My question is why put their theories into competition with others? I neither feel a need to challenge their beliefs nor refute their worship. Why do they refute mine. I’m not in competition with them, so I don’t challenge them. Worship- how you wish. That’s what our country is based upon."

LOL. I agree with you, but that would eliminate 90 percent of the posts in the FR Religion Forum. It is a sad religion that can't exist without attacking the beliefs of others.

16 posted on 01/09/2026 10:30:15 AM PST by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: Zathras; Tell It Right
I pointed out to a JW that if only 144k go to the kingdom, you are NOT improving your chances by getting new converts. Logically you should be “removing” converts.

My understanding is that the 144K was the first 144,00 to convert to Jehovah's Witness. Kind of incentive in the early days to get people to sign up before it was too late to get the premium package. The 144K were also the only ones to be privileged to receive their "communion" cup. I believe the last one of that number died several years ago.

17 posted on 01/09/2026 10:35:48 AM PST by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: CodeToad
JW don’t celebrate anyone’s birthday. I was told by a JW that was because such a celebration is not in the Bible. My understanding is that they don't celebrate birthdays is because every time in the Bible someone celebrated a birthday it was an evil person and something bad happened. See Genesis 20:20-22; 2 Maccabees 6:7; Matthew 14:6-12.
18 posted on 01/09/2026 10:42:52 AM PST by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: Ikeon

The Romans were very creative when it came to crucifixion. They used whatever resources they had at the time. After 2000 years of the gospels being passed down I’m sure there were translations that aren’t 100%, like anything else. Whether it was a true cross, or a “T” or just a stake, the Romans wanted to make sure it was as brutal and horrible as possible. But being as he was crucified in a relatively wealthy city they would have had the resources to make a true cross for maximum cruelty for effect and propaganda.


19 posted on 01/09/2026 10:52:30 AM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower)
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To: whitney69

Worship- how you wish. That’s what our country is based upon.


Muslims love that concept - it allows them so much freedom to take over cities, states, build their own private cities, and eventually take the whole country.


20 posted on 01/09/2026 11:04:14 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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