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<h1>The Hidden Cost of Convenience: What We Lose When Technology Becomes Our Servant</h1>
VANITY | December 9, 2025 | CIB-173RDABN

Posted on 12/09/2025 4:32:47 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN

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To: Tell It Right
Between the two of us, we have both power and internet.

Useless when the Internet itself isn't powered.

21 posted on 12/09/2025 9:29:44 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Useless when the Internet itself isn't powered.

I put that in the post. My Spectrum service (land internet) has gone down when the grid is down (I assume there are various relays needing power to get the service across miles of wire to my house). That's why my son-in-law brings his Starlink to my house. For that service to not be powered, Musk's ground source transmission to the satellites would have to lose power. I imagine he's got that backed up ten ways to Sunday.

It doesn't matter if it's the Spectrum modem or the Starlink modem that feeds into the parent node of my wifi mesh's parent node. Once that's supplied, the internet service seamlessly moves from there to my bridge, then from there down ethernet cables to the child nodes (the rest of my wifi mesh) throughout the house. All of our devices still connect to the same wi-fi name and use the internet as before. (Similar to an office network having a backup ISP and switching to it with none of the office workers knowing.)

The grid power was down long enough only one time for us to set up his Starlink here. So we've done it successfully. The other times we were happy with hotspotting from our phones (because the grid power came back up and restored my Spectrum service).

22 posted on 12/09/2025 10:14:28 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Civilization collapse will render all of it null and void. That IS coming.


23 posted on 12/09/2025 10:19:22 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Tell It Right

I’ve been reading about “water mills”, tips and tricks for selecting a site and building them. My guess is that we’ll be needing them.


24 posted on 12/09/2025 10:22:53 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Scrambler Bob
They wanted to charge me to reset the battery monitor module after I changed the 12 v battery after having "neglected" to put a backup battery on the board. Somebody saved money at the expense of the customer.

It's become a racket.

25 posted on 12/09/2025 10:31:11 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: GingisK
I, too, looked into pico water turbines as well as pico wind turbines. The idea is to help during the four coldest months out of the year (cold for Alabama) that I can produce only about half of the power we need (less sunshine overall, power consumption shifted to night to run the electric furnace). That is, without curbing our lifestyle (i.e. getting in the hot tub as much as we want, charging the EV and driving it as much as we want, and keeping the house temp what we want in our 2,600 sq ft home). But we don't get enough rain to have enough flow in our ravine at the back of our property to power a water turbine. Same for not having enough wind to power a wind turbine.

I'll just be happy with $65/month avg power bill (no natural gas bill, almost no gasoline expense). You seem to be preparing for an apocalypse. I don't blame you. I'm more concerned with a slow-burning frog type of control from the left. Instead of blatantly violent persecution of Christians, I'd put more money on something like jizya taxing (i.e. higher rates for power and gas, with power not working all day in areas like the Bible belt that doesn't vote Dim, much like other tyrannical leaders do in their countries by punishing some areas with power that works only a few hours per day).

In the past 12 months we had to pull from the grid only 20% of the power we consume. If the left tries to make power too expensive to use a lot of, their warmageddon cult energy polices will impact us only 1/5th as much. That includes not just the energy for our house, but also the energy to run our EV (1,500 miles/month of home charged miles for local driving). And if the left makes power unavailable at all (in the 4 winter months I need the grid), we have our gas pickup. If the left makes gasoline too expensive or hard to come by, we have the EV.

26 posted on 12/09/2025 10:41:43 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right
Oh, I see. You are looking into your personnel needs following The Crash. I more into the restoration of the entire industrial economy. ;-D

Here is where I'd start:

Or maybe:


27 posted on 12/09/2025 3:03:35 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Civilizations do not collapse because they become weak. They collapse because they become complex

That's not what the history says. Joseph Daniel Unwin published that data in 1934. His findings were that empires collapse within three generations after they blow off female prenuptial chastity.

Every one. Aldous Huxley called it the most important research of the 20th Century. If families cannot raise children to build upon their forebears, it's done.

28 posted on 12/09/2025 4:41:54 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I'm not sure why you posted that to me since the text in italics isn't anything I've said or repeated. But, I am very fond of discussing this topic.

A fall in birthrate below 2 children per couple does indeed mark the beginning of the end. This reduction seems to be the result of divergent causes. Universal mistrust in the government is a symptom of collapse, caused by incompetence withing the government, poor regard for the judiciary, and so on. It also stems from lack of an appropriate education.

Mass immigration occurs to fill the vacuum of declining birth rates, usually accompanied by replacement of the society. Those who swell into our Nation are not really capable of sustaining a technological society. Worse yet, this is happening all about Western Civilization and even the Orient.

We're in a dying civilization.

Check THIS out. The link goes to one of many scholarly articles regarding civilization collapse.

29 posted on 12/09/2025 4:57:29 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Carry_Okie

DEI is central to the collapse of civilization. Ensuring rule by the mentally ill is not a plan for long term survival.


30 posted on 12/09/2025 5:00:38 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
DEI is central to the collapse of civilization. Ensuring rule by the mentally ill is not a plan for long term survival.

DEI is nothing new. It was brought to this country in 1933 as funded by the richest people in the world. Stop treating symptoms as causes.

31 posted on 12/09/2025 5:21:35 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Stop treating symptoms as causes.

You are mistaken. DEI is a cause, but not the only cause.

32 posted on 12/09/2025 5:28:23 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
You are mistaken. DEI is a cause, but not the only cause.

Symptoms can act as causes without being at root. Pain is a symptom, but your musculoskeletal system will react to it, then acting as a cause of secondary problems with their own symptoms. DEI is a symptom. Hell, I was familiar with its tenets back in Berkeley 40 years ago as extensions of Critical Theory. Yet the latter was not in this country until it was imported wholesale in the Institute for Social Research (aka Frankfurt School) and then implanted largely at Teachers College at Columbia in 1933.

33 posted on 12/09/2025 5:46:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

In any case, we’re screwed! ;-D


34 posted on 12/09/2025 6:28:03 PM PST by GingisK
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Thanks.

I work with AI every day, all day. I use it as an assistant when I code, and for other things. I use it more than Google, for all kinds of things. It’s part of my daily routine.

That said, AI sucks at: making images, making videos, making articles. It gets “good enough,” but people who use AI every day know that it’s soul-less, and that often those who use it to create content are lazy. Oh, and the “uncanny valley” is just creepy.

Of course you’re free to continue relying on AI to create content.


35 posted on 12/09/2025 8:33:14 PM PST by Theo (FReeping since 1997 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thunderous applause.


36 posted on 12/10/2025 3:13:24 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Every one. Aldous Huxley called it the most important research of the 20th Century.

Aldous Huxley??!! Wow.

37 posted on 12/10/2025 3:16:55 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Openurmind
Back already?!
What a shame.










Cumbaya, buddy.
38 posted on 12/11/2025 7:28:09 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Lot of work for low IQ fourth grade playground “come back” tactics there. And it shames not one bit to drop in on an important issue like your ignorance here and stand up for what is right or wrong. Not one bit so that was completely unproductive wasted effort to dig those up. It just proves my point...

And I was gone until I saw your ignorant low IQ celebration of sadism. As a fellow conservative domain and forum owner I care about the FR domain as a whole. They are wiping us out one by one and conservative platforms need to stick together and stay alive for the overall CAUSE of Conservatism and our Free Republic.

We cannot alienate each other as plat forms or individuals, it is going to take everyone of us available to win this fight. Everyone... And the last thing we want to do is actually celebrate getting rid of people and kicking them out of the cause. It is unproductive and self destructive.

The FR is barely hanging on to life right now. Everyone here has that “one” member they want to have banned. If the domain answered their ALL wishes there would be no one left to pay the bills. Every time someone is banned it is an unfortunate loss because in this fight we need every hand on deck we can muster.

Even worse is the “Why” folks are being banned... Only because they do not follow exactly 100% lockstep and happen to have a personal opinion on a topic that differs from the mob? That is Democrat mob rule and hypocritical as hell. That is exactly what our founders and the Constitution was designed to prevent.

If you are too dense to understand the concept and reality of this then you have absolutely no basis to claim any intellect at all. Intelligent people do not get in the morning and say “Lets have some fun and make a fun list of all the people we got to kick out of the movement!”.

Read the experiences above... There are a whole lot of INNOCENT folks who were kicked out for very ignorant and stupid reasons. I have watched it happen many times myself. Only because they would not follow lockstep with the mob. We hate each other here more than the Democrats hate us. Who needs the Democrats when we are destroying ourselves with our own sadistic tendencies toward each other.

All I can say is that you can keep following a low IQ path of ignorance or you can take a slow down and actually consider what is best for the FREE REPUBLIC domain instead of your own personal selfish sadistic fetishes. If we all lose the FR it will be because people like you care about yourselves more than you care about the FR or the cause of Conservatism.

And by the way I got several more PMs in support of my argument yesterday. I am NOT the only one... I am just one of the few bold enough to speak out against mob rule. The very mob rule I thought we were fighting against in this Nation... Anyhow do what you like, but when you lose it remember that it will be no one’s fault but your own...


39 posted on 12/12/2025 3:19:32 AM PST by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: CIB-173RDABN

To explain the off topic post from me... Bikkuri brought a disagreement from another thread into yours here for no productive reason. Inappropriate and low IQ tactic... Sorry to disrupt the continuity of your thread, it should not have happened in the first place.


40 posted on 12/12/2025 3:41:32 AM PST by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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