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Posted on 12/08/2025 2:54:09 PM PST by artichokegrower
Artificial intelligence and its growing demand for data centers are putting new pressure on California’s electric grid. In San Jose, supporters see jobs and investment, while a key ratepayer advocate worries customers could end up paying for upgrades.
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But they said I couldn’t have incandescent light bulbs in my home because they use to much electricity
or 15 time machine flux capacitors...
CERTAINLY NOT the people using the extra electricity!!!
What did the Soviets use before candles?
Light bulbs!
data centers should have their own power
california is an insane place to locate power-hungry data centers given california’s insane hatred of energy ... these things should be located in states where energy is happily produced ... Wyoming, Louisiana, and Texas come to mind ...
“...data centers should have their own power...”
A MD legislator wanted to do this, but one of the data center guys pointed out that MD is against fossil fuels and nuclear and the combined cost of setting up their own solar/wind generators and battery banks would be prohibitive.
Which is what the Dims intended, I suppose, but they wanted to sound like they were protecting ratepayers.
And while they were at it, they wanted to ban gas cars and put everyone in electrical appliance vehicles...Computers with wheels. Massive power suckers.
By the way, I was told LEDs would last 10 years and my power bills would drop significantly. All glaring lies.
incandescent light bulbs are rediculous. It’s like wanting to stay with a horse and buggy in 1915, many years after the switch to automobiles.
Why is that a question? Data centers should foot the bill for the electricity they use.
Who foots the bill for the infrastructure to deliver that electricity. The power sources, the transmission lines, everything else involved.
I HAD TO BUY LED BULBS FOR MY MOTION SENSOR SECURITY LIGHTS.
COULDN’T BUY INCANDESCENT-—SO HAD TO PAY $16.04 INCLUDING TAX FOR JUST ONE BULB.
IT LASTED LESS THAN 30 DAYS.
LOWE’S GAVE ME A REPLACEMENT-—BUT THAT IS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.
I HAVE INCANDESCENT OVERHEAD BULBS IN MY KITCHEN-—
HAVE HAD TO REPLACE JUST ONE IN ALMOST 21 YEARS.
I HATE THE “LED’S”
SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE AMOUNT OF NON-RECYCLED WATER A DATA CENTER USES EVERY DAY....
450,000 GALLONS ISN’T UNCOMMON.
WHERE DO PEOPLE GET INSTANT REPLACEMENT FOR THAT???
SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE AMOUNT OF NON-RECYCLED WATER A DATA CENTER USES EVERY DAY....
450,000 GALLONS ISN’T UNCOMMON.
WHERE DO PEOPLE GET INSTANT REPLACEMENT FOR THAT???
Stupid question ... the peasants of course. They will start rationing electric to the peasants to ensure the data centers and AI get all the electric they need ... the peasants will praise Newscum for his wisdom and decision.
Won’t generating that much electricity adversely impact global warming? Where are the environmental groups?
to ridethemiles.
I’m hearing you. You’ve had bad experiences. LEDs are getting better. They use so much less electricity. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, that’s my advice. Thanks for explaining your problems. Also, I’m impressed that an incandescent for 20 years, lasted that long. That said, I have a lot of LEDs for years now, and they’re still going, and they use a small percentage of electricity compared to an incandescent.
I’m not an expert in this in any way, but if I owned or built a data center, I’d want a couple of natural gas powered turbines providing base power for the data center. Co-gen. Any engineers out there who can talk to this? (You’d have to have back up power in any case—enormous back up generators, always kept warm, to create power in a quarter of a second if power goes down.) They are every where in big installations, hospitals, etc. Input from SMEs please, is needed.
It’s California. They know more than anyone else.
One of the uses they foresee with this SMR (Small Modular Reactor) is exactly that. LINK: Natura Resources-Natura Resources Advancing Nation’s First Gen IV Nuclear Reactor
I give credit to the Trump administration, since they have made it a signal point to remove the bureaucracy and red tape for a new nuclear plant.
It could take 10-15 years to get approval from the government for a nuclear plant, and the Trump administration has reduced that time frame to their limit of 180 days.
They get it.
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