Thomas Massie: "Epstein had close ties to our own intelligence agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies, that's why there's so much effort in trying to stop this"

Not The Bee ^ | November 19, 2025 | Harambe Harambe

[Kazan]

Are you trying to say Israeli Deep State isn't capable of the same kind of corruption our Deep State is capable of just because those in it are Jewish?

[Kazan]

So, you think a “grandstanding, treasonous a-hole” couldn’t be right about Deep State, which was completely corrupted under Obama and Biden and filled with treasonous a-holes?

[silverleaf]

Nah…you pretty much got it right.

[Kazan]

Hah hah, page after page of big ole redactions.

At least the files will be released. Right?

If that happens, the issue will persist until the truth comes out OR there is justice for the victims in the form of prosecutions.

[13foxtrot]

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LOL.

So then why are all the Democrats in Congress voting to release “this”?
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The recently passed so-called transparency bill only applies to “unclassified” material.

This practically guarantees that nothing important will get released.

Thus, Dems can continue pounding the Administration suggesting Trump is Stonewalling.

[sockmonkey]

I watched a video today of Epstein’s bio. His quick ascension from college dropout to being an advisor with POA for a billionaire, then private consulting can only be explained by his being an intelligence operative, or a miracle.

[nitzy]

Wow. Even the most crazy Zionists on here don’t say that.

You must be some extra special kind of Zionist. I’m actually impressed. At least you are honest about it.

[Pelham]

“Megan Kelley also says that she has information that Epstein had a large collection of actual kitty porn”

If I recall correctly that came out as evidence in his trial. He had been downloading kiddy porn from the internet onto his computer.

What they didn’t find is any videos that Epstein might have made, nothing that included any of the girls in his orbit. It was all stuff that is floating around the internet if you hunt for it.

But it wouldn’t surprise me at all if spook agencies of his acquaintance had set up honey traps on his island. If they did, that’s where the “files and videos” everyone expects to find would actually be. And you aren’t going to get to see any of those, ever, assuming that any exist. All conjecture on my part, there’s no evidence that this occurred.

What gave me the idea is a honey trap operation that is rumored to have been operated by people associated with the Watergate breakin. A couple of retired CIA types involved with the Plumbers. Heidi Riken stumbled across it if memory serves.

[iamgalt]

Sure, he could be right but he’s still a grandstanding, treasonous a-hole

[mrmeyer]

The foreign intelligence is involved we need to know it wouldn’t surprise me either

[silverleaf]

A researcher ( cannot remember name) wrote that Epstein was actually brilliant at cracking into hidden dark money accounts and recovering “ debts” for billionaires like Adnan Khashoggi ( arms dealer mercenary prob tied to intel orgs or at least a source) …then structuring their accounts to protect them from being raided. His commissions were considerable from extremely grateful clients both in cash and other assets. And his reputation as a go-to guy for “special” financial transactions was secured among the global billionaire set.

He reportedly had multiple passports to facilitate travel, including Saudi. Had an apartment in Paris…multiple properties he owned or was given…where his sexual vices were also accommodated in Europe. We dont hear much about that.

[Wuli]

you left out “IF”

[Wuli]

I’m saying innuendo is not a substitute for evidence. Great for conspiracy theories and click bait though.

[cgbg]

“However while individual intel org agents could and should be punished for criminal sexual activity, the strategic relationship between our intel communities must be maintained for the greater good”

Lol.

Intelligence agencies have been running “honeypot” operations for centuries.

You want them to disavow any agents or assets involved in such activities and say “nothing to see here”?

You sound like Richard Helms.

Lol.

[Wuli]

My sense of Epstein is he peddled the mystique of “who he knew” (no matter how little actually) to sell himself as an influencer, creating a reputation as such to a far greater degree than the reality.

[Wuli]

There are claims that Robert Maxwell worked with Mossad, Israel’s intelligence agency. Author Gordon Thomas claims Maxwell was a Mossad representative for transactions in China, Russia, and India, while others allege he was involved in intelligence operations and disinformation campaigns [unspecified where] The extent and nature of these alleged activities, as well as whether his family was involved, are subject to debate and conspiracy theories, with some suggesting [SUGGESTING] his death was connected to his Mossad ties. Outside of that, any further extent of Maxwell working for Mosad [as if to influence U.S. politicians] is pure speculation.

There is
no confirmed evidence that any of Robert Maxwell’s daughters worked for Mossad. These claims largely stem from unproven assertions and conspiracy theories.

As for Ghislaine Maxwell: The most prominent daughter in the news due to her association and conviction for child sex trafficking alongside Jeffrey Epstein. Some sources, primarily a single former Israeli intelligence officer named Ari Ben-Menashe, have alleged [ALLEGED] that she and Epstein ran a “honeytrap” operation for Mossad. However, law enforcement investigations and a former Israeli prime minister, Naftali Bennett, have firmly dismissed these allegations, stating with 100% certainty that Epstein had no ties to Mossad or any other Israeli agency.

But as usual all the innuendos will supersede any actual facts in the minds of conspiracy theorists, particularly those seeking any handle with which to slander “the Jews”.

[Kazan]

There is any doubt that rich and powerful men have gotten away with raping underage girls and that the FBI and Biden's DOJ covered up their crimes.

The only question is whether the FBI and CIA were directly involved with working with Epstein coerce politicians here and worldwide.

Only someone devoid of a moral compass, like someone supporting everything we did to setoff the war in Ukraine like you, wouldn't agree.

[Trump_Triumphant]

Don’t these people talk about anything else? Shut up already.

[MeganC]

“Was all this hoopla worth it?”

Epstein’s little spoken of New Mexico “Babymaking” ranch was the site of coerced impregnations and then Lord only knows what happened to the girls/women and their babies.

Were the girls/women murdered?

Were their babies part of an illegal adoption scheme?

Were their babies used for perversions and human sacrifice?

Were their lives worth us demanding answers?

[Wuli]

It is only you with your slanderous ad hominem personal attacks who has lost your moral compass.