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Thomas Massie: "Epstein had close ties to our own intelligence agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies, that's why there's so much effort in trying to stop this"
Not The Bee ^ | November 19, 2025 | Harambe Harambe

Posted on 11/19/2025 8:55:20 AM PST by Red Badger

I'm not saying it, Thomas Massie is saying it.

BREAKING:

🇺🇲🇮🇱 "Epstein had close ties to our own intelligence agency and Israel's intelligence agencies." - Republican Rep. Thomas Massie. pic.twitter.com/II9fdhGZ1h— Megatron (@Megatron_ron) November 19, 2025

Yesterday, Speaker Johnson told us he was worried that if we declassified items in the files without consulting the intelligence agencies, it would be "incredibly dangerous" because, uh, critical sources must be protected.

Leftwing commentators were quick to come to their own wild conclusions:

BREAKING: 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 Speaker Mike Johnson claims the Epstein files CANT be released unredacted because they contain intelligence-agency material that falls under “national security.”

Translation: “The Israeli Mossad has videos of us r-aping children.”
pic.twitter.com/WYRFeHHNtw— ADAM (@AdameMedia) November 19, 2025

We also found out that Speaker Johnson, and possibly Trump, were not too happy about the bill:

NEW: Speaker Johnson tells me he’s “deeply disappointed” the Senate approved the Epstein files bill without making changes.

He said he spoke to Trump about it tonight: “We both have concerns,” Johnson said.

I asked if Trump may veto it: “I’m not saying that. I don’t know.” pic.twitter.com/qdErlrMKWY— Mychael Schnell (@mychaelschnell) November 19, 2025

Here's that full clip of Massie with a bit more context, which I'll quote below:

🚨Massie finally says the part the GOP’s been choking on:

“The Speaker, the Attorney General, the FBI Director, the President, and the Vice President could’ve spared our party months of humiliation if they’d just done the right thing four months ago.”

They knew. They stalled.… pic.twitter.com/JPjOQ7NHDd— Brian Allen (@allenanalysis) November 18, 2025

I'm concerned that now [Trump] is opening a flurry of investigations and I believe they may be trying to use those investigations as a predicate for not releasing the files ... I'm afraid they're going to try to use a provision of the law that allows you not to release these materials if they're subject of an ongoing investigation ... the release of which would harm the ongoing investigation.

Things are getting spicy out in Washington!


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; coverup; epstein; epsteindistraction; epsteinhysteria; epsteinhysterics; epsteinobsessed; epsteinobsession; frantisemiticcult; jewhatersonfr; lookwhohatesjews; massiesanantisemite; massiesarino; mullahloversonfr; randpaulsucks

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To: wardaddy

TLDR. I showed you the quote. You can’t read.


61 posted on 11/19/2025 11:33:05 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (Wake up, smell the cat food in your bank account. )
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To: mass55th

Intel is POWER. Blackmail is their stock in trade.................


62 posted on 11/19/2025 11:34:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: billakay

Genocidal? What drugs are you on? I think you meant to say Islamist terrorist leadership


63 posted on 11/19/2025 11:36:56 AM PST by boxlunch
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Whew. Imagine being an apologist for intel agencies with their long history of corruption and lack of accountability.

Imagine being an apologist for Epstien and Maxwell and their operation.

Wouldn’t want to be you on Judgement Day.


64 posted on 11/19/2025 11:53:31 AM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: Red Badger

I have no doubt Israel. But what about Mediocre Britain? Russia? ChyNa? All our so called “allies?” Interesting that they always single out Israel. Why? Just more effective than the other gigglebigots?


65 posted on 11/19/2025 11:58:05 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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To: LS

It’s the soft-core antisemitism............


66 posted on 11/19/2025 11:59:00 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: boxlunch

60k+ thousand terrorist leaders? Women and children among them?


67 posted on 11/19/2025 12:03:49 PM PST by billakay
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To: mass55th

The CIA hired the dredges of society to conduct their dirty work around the world. Why wouldn’t they hire Epstein too?

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The Anglo American Establishment will do whatever is necessary to stay in power, profit, and keep their secrets.

Trump said as much in the early days of the Trump Era:

“Are our hands clean?” (Paraphrasing)

The answer from American boyscouts & girlscouts was “we don’t operate like our enemies.” We’re a republic/democracy and are different.

“Yeah, right”

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68 posted on 11/19/2025 12:50:58 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: FreeReign
So then why are all the Democrats in Congress voting to release "this"?

Precisely because they know that it is IMPOSSIBLE to release them. Do you really think the CIA and Mossad would allow them to be released if it would upend 60 years of cooperation, conspiracy and collusion?

It will NEVER happen.

When they all vote to release the information and Trump doesn't do it....guess who is the bad guy.

69 posted on 11/19/2025 12:54:53 PM PST by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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To: silverleaf
Antisemites just salivating to take down Israel regardless of the real potential damage to US national security.

It almost seemed like you just admitted that you think Israel is behind Epstein, if this fact is revealed it would "take down Israel" and that you are against the truth being revealed.

It seems that you believe publicly revealing the fact that Israel had an intelligence operation to blackmail powerful Americans would "damage US national security", so you are against it.

I know there is no way you actually just said that but it only appears that you did.

Then it almost seemed that you were insisting that what Epstein did wasn't really that bad because some of the girls were at least 16 or 17.

Again, obviously that wasn't what you intended. It just seemed that way.

However while individual intel org agents could and should be punished for criminal sexual activity, the strategic relationship between our intel communities must be maintained for the greater good

Finally, it almost sounded like you were saying that it would be o.k. for a foreign intelligence agent to get kompromat on powerful US officials as long as it maintained "the strategic relationship".

Again, I am certain that I completely misunderstood your statement.

70 posted on 11/19/2025 1:07:22 PM PST by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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To: nitzy

When they all vote to release the information and Trump doesn’t do it....guess who is the bad guy.

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You get it. It’s too bad Free Republic “Epstein Experts” don’t.

Btw, I think most of it is made up bullshit intended for people who have a hypersexual biology, but would never act outside the moral codes of a civilized society.

This is a psyop through & through.


71 posted on 11/19/2025 1:14:09 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: Captainpaintball

Again, you chase ghosts Yes, SOME Israli globalists were involved. “ The Internation Communost conspiracy seems to distract, by using Antisemtism.” Robert Welsch.


72 posted on 11/19/2025 1:31:38 PM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: billakay

I’m telling you that now.


73 posted on 11/19/2025 1:32:53 PM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: billakay

Stick your genocidal charge up your ass.


74 posted on 11/19/2025 1:34:09 PM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: unclebankster

I’m not so sure we agree on this.

I believe that Epstein was running a kompromat operation for the Mossad. I don’t necessarily believe there is some secret “file” somewhere that details the whole conspiracy but I think there are plenty of loose ends that could be put together to form a clear enough picture.

I also believe that the operation worked so well there is nobody of any import in the US who would dare expose it. The reason they all are put into the positions of power is BECAUSE they are dirty.

Knowing that Biden could never release the info, Republicans used it to bash him. Knowing that Trump could never release the info, the Democrats are using it to bash him.

He will come out looking like the bad guy when it’s all withheld or redacted.


75 posted on 11/19/2025 1:34:22 PM PST by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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To: unclebankster

We’re globalist Isralis involved of course. The man who wrote None Call It Conspracy, said that Antisemtism is a tool the globalists used to throw people of thier scent.


76 posted on 11/19/2025 1:38:04 PM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Red Badger

KY only votes in nuts.


77 posted on 11/19/2025 1:40:12 PM PST by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: cowboyusa

Yeah,

The author’s name is Gary Allen and I own the book.

And yes the global establishment has no problem using antisemitism to deflect criticism.

I also believe they provide the propaganda for any heightened upswing in anti Jewish hate. They know the human race will believe anything as long the drum beat of ‘information’ is long and overwhelming.


78 posted on 11/19/2025 1:49:51 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: HYPOCRACY

You just like fight
It entertains you


79 posted on 11/19/2025 2:13:07 PM PST by wardaddy (If u hate Trump you’re oh eff offstupid or clueless what’s going on)
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To: nitzy

I’m not so sure we agree on this.

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We don’t agree, but I’m open to your interpretations of the Epstein information that’s been provided.

1) The alleged victims have provided zero stories about anybody that isn’t Epstein or a member of the British Royal Family. Please name these powerful people that were using an under the age of consent teenage girl sex ring?

Name them, or it’s just more #MeToo bullshit where adult females remain anonymous while taking payouts.

2) I believe that multiple intelligence agencies were in on the action, but don’t actually have much outside getting dirty stories printed in salacious media outlets.


80 posted on 11/19/2025 2:40:41 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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