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Defending Kash Patel from Himself
The Last Refuge ^ | September 14, 2025 | sundance

Posted on 09/14/2025 2:32:42 PM PDT by Bratch

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To: bigbob

Sundance is so tiresome. Ever notice he always criticizes yet never says what anyone should do in his esteemed position?


41 posted on 09/14/2025 3:52:54 PM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th and 47th President of the United States of America!)
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To: Bratch

Here’s my prediction: A year from now the leftists will be celebrating again because there will be a hung jury or a not guilty verdict for Robinson due to incompetence in the FBI and the investigation.


42 posted on 09/14/2025 3:56:46 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: bigbob
Good response. Sundance assumes ill intent by the Utah FBI, then pats himself on the back for his brilliance, with no real evidence to back it up.

While in real life, despite mistakes which could have several different causes, the likely suspect was turned in and arrested in 48 hours.

43 posted on 09/14/2025 3:58:36 PM PDT by Widget Jr (us Trump us)
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To: MNDude

why are you predicting instead of fighting?...


44 posted on 09/14/2025 4:02:06 PM PDT by heavy metal (maga... make asylums great again...)
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To: bigbob

Care to explain?

I’ve read Sundance (I guess you say he is Mark Bradman, a name I never heard until I saw your post just now) since his early days, and especially his analysis of the 2016 election and just who Trump represented. And ever since I receive much information that I find unique and important (silos, for example). And so much more.

Are you saying that you dismiss him in total, or only certain aspects of his rhetoric?


45 posted on 09/14/2025 4:02:46 PM PDT by jobim
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I do not get the feeling that he’s inept but I did see the press conference that evening and Patel looked exhausted.


46 posted on 09/14/2025 4:12:03 PM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The dawn cracks hard like a bull whip and it ain't taking no lip from the night before" Tom Waits)
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To: Clutch Martin

I thought that The look on Patel’s face when Cox was talking was very similar to the look on Trump’s face when Fauci was talking.


47 posted on 09/14/2025 4:15:10 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Widget Jr
Excellent summary on Sundance article and what happened in real life.
48 posted on 09/14/2025 4:19:13 PM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: MNDude
Here’s my prediction: A year from now the leftists will be celebrating again because there will be a hung jury or a not guilty verdict for Robinson due to incompetence in the FBI and the investigation.

Here's my prediction: You're wrong.

49 posted on 09/14/2025 4:30:31 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: Bratch
Did the FBI have anyone officially present at the Charlie Kirk Rally in Utah?

The location was 40 miles south of Salt Lake City.

Unless they had active threats, I doubt the FBI would even bother to attend.

Regardless, the two arrests that Patel commented on were made by the University Police and the Local Police.

100% of his information came from people outside the FBI.

50 posted on 09/14/2025 4:35:38 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: Blue Highway
Re: "300,000 to 350,000 deported."

There is also an unknown number of illegals who self-deport.

USA employers are now very sensitive to the Trump crack down.

Hiring people with falsified documents has become much more dangerous, which means job offers for illegals have become more scarce.

No jobs for illegals?

Adios, gentlemen!

51 posted on 09/14/2025 4:52:04 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: MNDude

“bold” is one way to describe your prediction… time will tell


52 posted on 09/14/2025 5:11:47 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: Bratch
After eating dinner at Rao’s, an embarrassed Kash Patel was then forced to retract his public statement, walking back his message that a suspect was in custody at 7:59 pm, a little over 1.5 hours later.

Well, he was the suspect in custody at that time. He didn't say the killer of Charlie Kirk was in custody. He also said there would be updates as they become available, which he did after an an hour & a half. I di not think that Kash had even gone to Utah at that point. He didn't participate in that initial briefing with Governor Cox.

I see nothing wrong with that, however, I hope he is not satisfied that that Tyler is the actual shooter. When Tyler jumped to the ground from the roof, he had no rifle in his possession. That rifle found in the bush wrapped in a towel does not break down like an AR rifle does. So, how did that rifle get into the bush. The only possible explanation is that rifle, was not used in the shooting. Another rifle, probably of a similar caliber had to be used, and that one has not been recovered.

Two of the security detail for Charlie were making signals like those used in baseball, seconds before the shot rang out and hit Charlie in the neck.

Then there was the guy in the crowd that pumped his fist in the air, and turned back towards the roof where the shooter they assume the shot came from. That guy was celebrating what had just taken place, and he was quite obvious with his joy. Then there were two guys who were detained as possible suspects One had a pellet guy and claimed he shot Charlie, the other had a rifle in his vehicle that had a strap.

were they decoys to cause delays that allowed the real shooter more time to escape?

I am not convinced that Tyler is the actual shooter.

Also, the transgender angle is just a bit too convenient, for me to accept. Seems like yet another distraction.

53 posted on 09/14/2025 5:14:32 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Pikachu_Dad; Jeff Chandler

Please.

Giving props to Patel for releasing the photos is the equivalent of giving him a Participation Trophy.

It happens all the time.

https://www.fox8live.com/2025/01/02/fbi-releases-photos-terror-suspect-explosives-packed-cooler-seeking-publics-help/

https://komonews.com/news/local/fbi-seeks-publics-help-identifying-serial-seattle-bank-robber

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/help-identify-child-predator-jane-doe-39

https://www.davisenterprise.com/news/davis-police-release-photos-of-downtown-scam-suspect/article_4d6ae334-d8bf-4283-8e9e-86cf93ae3621.html

https://hoodline.com/2025/02/dade-city-police-release-photos-of-suspects-in-ongoing-shooting-investigation-seek-public-s-help/

https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/crime/2025/06/06/photos-shooting-suspect-las-cruces-police-ask-for-help-identifying-june-2-shooting-suspect/84078591007/

https://wlos.com/news/local/police-release-photos-seek-publics-help-in-identifying-feb-17-shooting-suspect-south-french-broad-avenue


54 posted on 09/14/2025 5:47:56 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: bigbob

Yep.


55 posted on 09/14/2025 6:01:41 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: shelterguy

What is the typical amount of time required to clean up and turnaround a massive bureaucracy like the FBI?>>. I would say 6 months. 3 months to build the Quonset huts in Nome, Ak and then Three months to begin to rotate the staff there. With my excuse: “Just waiting for the new FBI building to be competed.”


56 posted on 09/14/2025 6:30:09 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: bigbob
And if you challenge him on his X account with reminders how he has been wrong in the past, you get blocked.

He may be right on this one. We'll see. Given what Patel and Bongino stepped into, it's impossible to know if anyone would be doing any better.
57 posted on 09/14/2025 7:15:37 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

Near 60 posts and not one plausible explanation for both he and Bongino flying to Utah...to be silent witnesses at a press briefing, with no questions taken.


58 posted on 09/14/2025 7:24:28 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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I didn't know one was needed. I will tell you this. Had they spoke, their detractors would say, "They just rode into town to make public statements and make it about them." Then, when they don't speak, we hear, "There is no plausible explanation of why they didn't speak!". They can't win.

Maybe, just maybe they wanted to assure President Trump, the Kirk family, and a grieving nation, that from the very top of the FBI the manhunt and investigation was being done in the most complete and competent manner possible. Perhaps that didn't require Patel or Bongingo to make statements at the presser.
59 posted on 09/14/2025 7:35:55 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: DoodleBob

Oh no, the doodler is big mad. Even sent a private message !

Shooters caught. In pretty good time.

Patel did a good job.


60 posted on 09/14/2025 7:45:32 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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