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Trump Just ABANDONED Ukraine — Russia Now Controls The War | Professor John Mearsheimer
Secret of Secrets ^ | 8/21/2025 | Dan Brown

Posted on 08/22/2025 7:53:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods

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To: Alberta's Child

Russia wants Ukraine and more.


41 posted on 08/22/2025 10:01:48 AM PDT by TexasGator (IThe 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Best for you to search them up yourself. They are mostly about what land Russia wants. I wouldn’t get it right from memory.”

So there is no list. Thank you.


42 posted on 08/22/2025 10:02:41 AM PDT by TexasGator (IThe 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: Alberta's Child
I would assume Russia DOES have “imperial ambitions.” And it’s hard to hold that against them. They’re operating no differently than the U.S. would do if the Mexican government had asked China to establish a military presence there

That's ridiculous. We would not invade Mexico and seize their land, we would just stop all trade.

43 posted on 08/22/2025 10:40:18 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: SaxxonWoods

@POTUS on the war in Ukraine: “I’m not happy about anything about that war — nothing... I think over the next two weeks, we’re going to find out which way it’s going to go, and I better be very happy.”

1:37 PM · Aug 22, 2025


44 posted on 08/22/2025 10:46:41 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: TexasGator

There is an exact list of everything Putin wants.


45 posted on 08/22/2025 10:53:19 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Yes, things are getting interesting and we are actually closer to an agreement than ever if Europe doesn’t blow it all up.

That's according to the idiot Witkoff who said Russia is now amendable if Europe gives NATO like article 5 guarantees to Ukraine.

Europe is not the impediment to an agreement, its Putin who is still making maximum demands of Ukraine.

NOW Lavrov is saying Russia has to have veto powers over whether any security agreements are triggered and no NATO troops in Ukraine.

Russia wants … Russia to have veto over Western security guarantees for Ukraine

“Moscow won’t agree with collective security guarantees negotiated without Russia … Russia will accept if the security guarantees to Ukraine are provided on equal basis with the participation of countries like China, the United States, the United Kingdom and France,” Lavrov said in a press conference, after meeting the Jordanian foreign minister.

On Wednesday, Lavrov returned to a concept proposed during the Istanbul peace talks in April 2022 that involved a NATO-like coalition of guarantor nations providing security guarantees to Ukraine. That idea flopped on the Western side because Moscow demanded a unanimous clause that had to be green-lighted by all countries, including Russia, before the guarantees could be triggered.

46 posted on 08/22/2025 10:55:13 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: SaxxonWoods
There is an exact list of everything Putin wants.

Yes, and Putin's demands keep growing.

In December 2024, Lavrov stated that peace in Ukraine is possible only if Ukraine renounces NATO membership and loses some of its territories. At the time, Lavrov emphasized that Russia could not tolerate “Ukrainian legislation prohibiting the Russian language, Russian media, Russian culture, while the Ukrainian Orthodox Church remains in place.”

47 posted on 08/22/2025 10:59:42 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: laplata

The Prof is in error: The Russian economy is about to crash and Putin will not be able to go on financing the war...


48 posted on 08/22/2025 11:41:46 AM PDT by POGO163
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To: SaxxonWoods
The Russian part of Ukraine should belong to Russia.
The Ukrainian part of Ukraine should belong to Ukraine.
The Donbas is Russian.

49 posted on 08/22/2025 11:43:20 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: struggle

Your logic is Putin invaded Ukraine and there was no reason for Ukraine to fight Putin? Really?? How about to get their 20,000 kids back who Russia kidnaped? How about so Ukraine could live in a free country instead of under a dictator?


50 posted on 08/22/2025 11:46:47 AM PDT by POGO163
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To: SaxxonWoods

You don’t want the war yet you only want Ukraine to stop. You don’t care if Putin keeps on. That means you are a Russian Bot. If you want the war to stop jump on Putin too.


51 posted on 08/22/2025 11:50:52 AM PDT by POGO163
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To: SaxxonWoods

Here is what Putin to stop the war: Ukraine.

And you are going along with that.


52 posted on 08/22/2025 11:53:22 AM PDT by POGO163
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To: POGO163

The professor would say that you are in error. Stalemate...Lol


53 posted on 08/22/2025 12:02:36 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Let them destroy each other. It’s not this country’s concern. It’s the Euroweenies. No more unaccounted-for American taxpayer dollars or depletion of our own weapons inventory to support another proxy war with Russia. We’ve got our own wars going on here that need fighting. America First only!!


54 posted on 08/22/2025 12:10:05 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Wow, there is no shortage of morons writing blogs that think they have some great insight. Give a monkey a crayon and you’ll get the same level of analysis, maybe better


55 posted on 08/22/2025 12:33:59 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: frog in a pot
Perhaps you just need more time in the real world.

You must be joking. LOL.

If you are involved in a legal dispute and the judge in the case assigns the two parties to a mediation process, would you go into that process without objecting if you found out the mediator was the business partner of the opposing party?

You can't possibly be that naive.

56 posted on 08/22/2025 12:44:32 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Although my eyes were open, they might just as well be closed.")
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To: pissant

You might want to read up on him before making a judgment.


57 posted on 08/22/2025 12:49:54 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: POGO163

No, that’s not what he wants. It’s basically those land swaps Trump keeps talking about.


58 posted on 08/22/2025 12:51:05 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: tlozo

“...its Putin who is still making maximum demands of Ukraine.”

Yes, here they are:

https://greekreporter.com/2025/08/17/russia-terms-end-ukraine-war-revealed-trump-putin-alaska/

I haven’t seen anything specific from Ukraine yet.


59 posted on 08/22/2025 12:58:56 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: TexasGator

“So there is no list. Thank you.

https://greekreporter.com/2025/08/17/russia-terms-end-ukraine-war-revealed-trump-putin-alaska/

Here it is. You’re welcome.


60 posted on 08/22/2025 1:01:06 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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