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Posted on 08/21/2025 5:42:50 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
So much about Ukraine seems in flux since President Trump landed in Alaska Friday. It’s been nonstop action with a growing cast of world leaders jumping in.
One thing has remained constant: Vladimir Putin’s demands—the surrender of territory he hasn’t conquered, the end of an independent Ukraine and, in its place, a puppet state from which he can threaten Europe.
Politically, there appear to be three possible outcomes for Mr. Trump.
One is that the American president becomes as tough on Mr. Putin as he has been on Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky. Then he could play a pivotal role in getting Russia and Ukraine to arrive at a deal that results in a durable peace.
Ukraine would remain independent and again become prosperous. Europe would become more secure. By ending a war that’s taking an enormous toll on the Russian Federation, Moscow, while seriously tarnished by its brutal invasion, could gingerly attempt to escape its economic and geopolitical isolation.
If Mr. Trump brokered a successful deal, the talk of his receiving the Nobel Peace Prize would spread beyond Turning Point USA gatherings. The president’s numbers would probably rise before the midterms. A 5-point bump from Mr. Trump’s current 45.8% approval rating in the RealClearPolitics average would help limit the GOP’s losses, perhaps save the Republican House majority.
The second possible outcome: If Russia and Ukraine can’t come to an agreement, the conflict would rage on over battlefields filled with dead soldiers from both countries as Moscow keeps pounding civilian targets from the sky.
A failure to come to an agreement would hurt Mr. Trump’s reputation as a strong leader and a great deal-maker. The outcome would strengthen Democrats and put Republicans on the defensive. The GOP’s losses in the midterms would climb.
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The answer is clearly no.
They have irreconcilable differences.
Somebody is going to have to win the war.
Karl Rove
Yes. President Trump will fix that
Sorry.
“””Putin’s demands—the surrender of territory he hasn’t conquered, the end of an independent Ukraine and, in its place, a puppet state from which he can threaten Europe. “””
Karl Rove, you were there when Putin started his westward expansion with the Acquistion of Georgia.
In case you have forgotten.
Trump can fix a lot. Heck he’s ended no less than five wars.
But Putin is just plain evil. Zelanzy is corrupt. This one is not fixable. Even for Trump. Too many dead. More will die. Sigh
Sorry “Zelensky”
Karl Rove <- walking turd and that is being generous
It would take the Russians years and 2 million more casualties to take they area Putin demands Ukraine to give up.
The Ham speaks.
“It would take the Russians years and 2 million more casualties to take they area Putin demands Ukraine to give up.”
That assumes a purely linear progression.
War doesn’t work that way.
On D-Day +7 allied forces were still within a mile of the beach. In France.
A little over a year later they were in Berlin...hardly a linear progression.
Losing armies collapse. Every time.
The answer is clearly no.
They have irreconcilable differences.
Somebody is going to have to win the war.
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Well said, for many reasons….it is already clear: at best, Ukraine losses territory, at worst, they cease to exist as a “ nation”….even my teenager can see it.
He can fix this mess if he doesn’t have a lot of harpies squawking at him constantly.
Losing armies collapse. Every time.
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It is called the “ waterfall effect”…..slowly, little by little, then all of a sudden….Ukraine is very close to the waterfall.
He will not seal a deal when only one side wants a deal. Putin wants a deal like Hitler wanted a deal with the Sudetenland. All smiles getting what he wanted and when everyone went home, he gobbled up the rest of the country. Know history to know what is coming.
recently: 
At this time, Putin might think upper Donetsk may be too tough a nut to crack. In three months, who knows what Putin's army might possess and what Putin might think.
In a hypothetical scenario where the Kyiv government falls apart, it would not be in the interest of Moscow to occupy the whole country. By then, they'll be forced to fight a guerilla war similar to the Soviet-Afghan war.
“A failure to come to an agreement would hurt Mr. Trump’s reputation as a strong leader and a great deal-maker.”
Nah. Trump doesn’t have anything more to prove on that front. He has done what could be done by external countries.
It is up to the principals. If Putin is just looking for surrender from Ukraine then I suspect no deal and the fight continues. But hopefully some sort of deal can be struck.
I don’t think they want the whole country.
But I’m sure they want their guy in Kiev.
And Donbas. And Odessa. And Crimea.
Yard gnome speaks.
Says no deal would be disaster for Trump.
How’s that dude?
Trump ain’t running for reelection.
Trump ain’t working to have the Globalist Aussie Rupert Murdoch’s minions at Faux News, the NYP, or the WSJ write his legacy.
As far as midterms go, it ain’t Trump’s problem.
The Republican wing of the uniparty only picked up five seats in the House in 2024 and Trump not only won an electoral landside but a popular majority.
Trump’s America First Movement and GOPe Establishment are not on the same page nor have they ever been.
For Rove to PRETEND he cares about what is disastrous to Trump is insulting to anyone who knows who Rove is and how he has always been a Never Trumper who has had to restrain himself from going the full Bill Kristol.
Frankly I’d rather watch and listen to Butch Madcow on PMSNBC than watch and listen to Karl Rove anywhere, Butch is a better looking dude.
“….even my teenager can see it.”
You have a granddaughter? Or gf?
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