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Trump Still Fails to Understand Russia’s Fundamental Reason for the Special Military Operation, But He is Trying
Sonar21 ^ | 21 Aug 25 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 08/21/2025 3:11:19 PM PDT by delta7

SOCAR Oil Terminal Destroyed in Odessa

Despite claims from the Trump administration about the success of Monday’s meeting with Zelensky and the European pimp delegation, the prospect for a successful negotiation to end the war in Ukraine is zero. Trump continues to mistakenly believe that he simply needs to get Putin and Zelensky together, who will hammer out a deal. Trump labors under the false assumption that the war in Ukraine was caused in part by a personal tiff between Putin and Zelensky.

Putin has been very clear that he will only meet with Zelensky once the details of a Ukrainian surrender have been agreed upon. Trump also thinks that is nothing more than a dispute over land, and that land swaps is a key to achieving a peace agreement. Here again, Trump displays profound ignorance about the legal status of Zaporhyzhia and Kherson republics under the Russian Constitution. Putin cannot concede any of that territory to Ukraine any more than Trump can give Alaska back to Russia.

But there is some good news: Notwithstanding Trump’s ignorance of Russia’s reasons for starting the Special Military Operation (SMO) in February 2022, he is sincere about reestablishing dialogue and normal diplomatic relations with Russia… at least that is what the Russians believe. During the Biden term in office, communication with Russia ended in January 2022. Now they have someone to talk to… actually several someones, which includes Trump, Rubio, Ratcliffe and Witkoff.

Russia is not going to back away from increasing military pressure on Ukraine. In the last 24 hours, Russia hit two key oil refineries –i.e., the Kremenchug oil refinery in the Poltava oblast and the SOCAR oil terminal/depot in Odessa. The Kremenchug Oil Refinery is owned by PJSC Ukrtatnafta. The ownership structure of Ukrtatnafta includes:

• The Ukrainian state, through Naftogaz of Ukraine NJSC, holding about 43% of shares. • The Privat Group, controlled by Ukrainian businessman Ihor Kolomoyskyi and Oleksandr Yaroslavsky, holding about 56% via offshore entities. In case you forgot, Ihor Kolomoyskyi is a prominent Ukrainian oligarch who played a significant role in Volodymyr Zelensky’s rise to power during the 2019 presidential election. This support included:

• Media Support: Kolomoyskyi owned the 1+1 Media Group, whose main TV channel (1+1) broadcast “Servant of the People,” the hit political satire starring Zelensky. This show helped propel Zelensky’s national profile and popularity. Kolomoyskyi’s media outlets gave extensive, supportive coverage to Zelensky throughout his campaign. • Business and Personal Connections: Zelensky’s production company, Kvartal 95, had business ties with Kolomoyskyi’s media group. During the campaign, Zelensky appointed Kolomoyskyi’s personal lawyer as a key adviser, and he travelled to meet Kolomoyskyi abroad on multiple occasions while Kolomoyskyi was in exile. • Perceptions of Influence: These connections fueled perceptions, especially among critics and political opponents, that Zelensky was “Kolomoyskyi’s candidate” or a potential puppet of the oligarch.

His campaign benefited from Kolomoyskyi’s resources and media influence, leading to skepticism about the independence of his anti-oligarch platform While Kolomoyskyi and Zelensky have since parted ways, Ihor is still a major economic force in Ukraine, and this hit him where it counts. It also damages Ukraine’s lines of communication with respect to getting fuel to Ukrainian military vehicles.

The bombing of SOCAR in Odessa is even bigger news. SOCAR is the State Oil Company of the Azerbaijan Republic. It’s Azerbaijan’s national oil and gas corporation and operates fuel stations, terminals, and logistics facilities in several countries, including Ukraine. The Odessa depot serves as a gateway for fuel products destined for European markets and for Israel.

The destruction of SOCAR’s Odessa oil depot is a significant financial blow for Azerbaijan, leading to reduced market access, increased cost burdens, and forcing a reassessment of both commercial and diplomatic strategies for Azerbaijan in Ukraine, in Israel and in Europe. Consider this: SOCAR operates around 60 fuel stations across Ukraine and has invested in oil storage and network infrastructure in the Kiev, Odessa, and Nikolayev regions.

This is not just an attack against the leader of Azerbaijan; it also is a severe blow to Ukraine’s ability to supply oil and fuel to its military forces. Putin sent a clear message to the Azeri leader, Aliyev, who has been way too chummy with Zelensky, Israel and the United States… FAFO.

If you want to know what Putin’s government is thinking in the wake of Monday’s meeting in Washington between Trump and Zelensky, set aside 20 minutes to listen to Sergei Lavrov:


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To: Owen

We are living in post-reality.


21 posted on 08/21/2025 3:38:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: NorthMountain

The dwarf of St Petersburg is out to avenge the fall of the Soviet Union. He is daring “The West” (as he calls it) to a full scale war. The war ends when facing certain defeat he offs himself. Or is offed by someone in his circle. Or by a ‘western’ missile. Until then he will fight to the last Russian.


22 posted on 08/21/2025 3:38:34 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: NorthMountain

“... steal land and resources...”

You could easily trade the word steal with recover. They did own them prior to 1991 when Ukraine told Russia they were leaving when the Soviets were vulnerable. It just took Russia a little over 20 years to say you’re going to be mine again.

wy69


23 posted on 08/21/2025 3:41:21 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: pissant
Yup:

Brennan

Clapper

Hayden

Foul creatures ALL!!!

24 posted on 08/21/2025 3:45:32 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: NorthMountain

Saving the Ukrainian people of Russian descent wasn’t a factor?
Nevermind that zelenski was attacking them?


25 posted on 08/21/2025 3:51:51 PM PDT by South Dakota (Vance / Trump...2028 )
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To: NorthMountain

“Russia’s fundamental reason for invading Ukraine is to steal land and resources”

And the Neocons made it REALLY, REALLY, easy for him to justify the war any way he wanted, by installing a government HOSTILE to Russians Ukraine. The Neocons have only themselves to blame for what’s going on there.


26 posted on 08/21/2025 3:52:32 PM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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To: delta7

“Those closely following listen as he is an ex-CIA career employee spilling the beans on our out of control CIA.”

To the Zeepers that makes Larry Johnson an EVIL person, as we see here.


27 posted on 08/21/2025 3:54:01 PM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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To: Pres Raygun

“Trump rightfully doesn’t care why Putin invaded a neighboring SOVEREIGN state.”

Thanks for the LAUGH, and 17 CIA labs would disagree with you.


28 posted on 08/21/2025 3:55:16 PM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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To: delta7

“the prospect for a successful negotiation to end the war in Ukraine is zero”

What is his definition of “successful”?


29 posted on 08/21/2025 3:55:27 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: pissant

Sounds like a pseudonom meant to sound as American-as-apple-pie.


30 posted on 08/21/2025 3:56:04 PM PDT by jonatron
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To: delta7
Every time Trump has tried to get Putin and Zelensky together Zelensky reiterates his peace terms

Russia leaves Ukraine
Russia hands over Crimea
Russia pays Ukraine 1 Trillion dollars in reparations
Russia hands over its leadership for war crimes tribunals

Given that the Ukraine is losing the war these are probably not realistic starting terms and President Trump has given Zelensky what is a reasonable deal

The problem is the longer Zelensky holds out, the more Ukraine loses and the more sunk costs the Russians have to recoup in any potential peace agreement

So it just gets worse and worse for Ukraine

31 posted on 08/21/2025 3:57:31 PM PDT by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead.)
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To: Owen

“BTW, I have become intrigued with the sheer ratio of minutes or hours the Europeans are allocating to the question of what to do after peace is arranged.”

Very true, but actually the Europeans fully understand that Ukraine cannot now win, so now, as with the Zeepers, their ONLY HOPE is ridding out the next 3.5 years and hoping that a “more compliant” president gets into the White House, so that they can get the US doing their fighting, again.


32 posted on 08/21/2025 3:59:54 PM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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To: Fledermaus

The author is just another idiot who thinks he knows more..he does not.


33 posted on 08/21/2025 4:00:23 PM PDT by iamgalt
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To: South Dakota

“Saving the Ukrainian people of Russian descent wasn’t a factor? Nevermind that zelenski was attacking them?”

To the Neocons and the Zeepers (at least some of them, based on what they post), the Ethnic Cleansing and potential genocide of Russians is a BENEFIT of their war, not a downside. Remember, Russians are White Christians, the type of people they think need to be done away with (just look at migration into Europe and the US, under Biden if you don’t believe me).


34 posted on 08/21/2025 4:02:51 PM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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To: delta7

i’ll check out lavrov video later. i dont know current thinking. Do you believe he offered peace for Donbas?


35 posted on 08/21/2025 4:03:27 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: rdcbn1

” The problem is the longer Zelensky holds out, the more Ukraine loses and the more sunk costs the Russians have to recoup in any potential peace agreement. So it just gets worse and worse for Ukraine.”

Very true, with Odessa to be given up next.


36 posted on 08/21/2025 4:04:06 PM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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To: pissant
Yeah, good old Larry Johnson (whoever the f*ck that is) knows so much more about world affairs than Trump and his team. Thanks Larry

This is all you need to know about that pro-Kremlin loser...he used to post here until he started threatening people.

Larry C. Johnson - FR Lurker/Stalker?

37 posted on 08/21/2025 4:14:40 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

Do you believe he offered peace for Donbas?
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The Russian Donbass will remain Russian. St Z will have to accept territory losses, if not the war will continue, and St Z will lose more territory.

That said, President Trump can do little other than get the players to the table- and talk…senile Joe cut all communications with Russia. St Z takes his orders from NATO and the EU, Vlad doesn’t take orders from anyone.( nor does Trump) .


38 posted on 08/21/2025 4:15:26 PM PDT by delta7
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To: NorthMountain

Russia’s fundamental reason for invading Ukraine is to steal land and resources ... and finish his hero Josef Stalin’s genocide.


Banditry is in the very fabric of Russian history, society and culture. This is a holy war for Russian Supramacists who delusionally believe Ukraine is part of Russia and Ukrianians are really “bad” Russians. And they are happy to murder anyone who disagrees. Putin’s regime will only surrender when its economy collapses. Again.


39 posted on 08/21/2025 4:16:09 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Fledermaus
Another “genius” no one has heard of.

I beg to differ on that.
https://freerepublic.com/tag/larryjohnson/index
https://freerepublic.com/tag/larrycjohnson/index Johnson is known on FR. Many have forgotten or never learned of him.

He was one known for writing "the Declining Terrorist Threat" right before 9/11. He was a founder of "Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity", which opposed Bush on Iraqi WMDs. He was with "Bush lied, people died". In 2014, it was declassified that the US recovered lots of chemical weapons, that 600 servicemen were injured by them, and the US kept quiet to keep the weapons from falling into hand who would use them on us.

He also fed in to the phony story of the Dominion server raid in Germany, claiming it was by United States European Command. Reminder to everyone who was into 2020 election conspiracies, the Dominion server raid in Germany never happened and nothing ever came of the story. Everyone who pushed that story pretends it never happened, including Johnson.

Larry Johnson is a has been who panders himself to the conspiracy and fringe side of left and right politics as it suits him. The only truth about him now is he is always on the wrong side.

40 posted on 08/21/2025 4:18:52 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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